Zimbabwe votes for ICC reform

[Mr Twig]

India is the only strong side regularly visited Zimbabwe even in the tough times when other strong teams like Australia, New Zealand, England even South Africa neglected to tour Zimbabwe and being neighbours also give less importance to Zimbabwe



Most recently Indians played series regularly with Zimbabwe 2013, 2015 and most recently 2016, giving Zimbabwe an equal importance as an international side in return they needed Zimbabwe's vote in ICC.

Now, Situation might change as Zimbabwe gone against India. Billateral Series MOU might be affected.

Among other nations,Pakistan has always put condition against Zimbabwe i,e Pakistan will tour Zimbabwe only if Zimbabwe agrees to play Pakistan in Pakistan. When it comes to Sri Lanka
, they visited Zimbabwe after a gap of six years, thats make clear intention of neglection

Bangladesh have began to use Zimbabwe for their purpose now, they avoided return tour to Zimbabwe Tour in 2014, 2015, 2016 and always played with Zimbabwe in Bangladesh as an international preparation for bigger tournaments like World T20 or World Cup. Bangladesh are now more interested to play against bigger teams by dumping Zimbabwe Tour nearly every year.


Kiwis and Windies plays with Zimbabwe to a much lesser extent. Aussies kept Zimbabwe in neglection. England are out of ties with Zimbabwe in Cricket since 2003 Massacre.

Zimbabwe Might have done biggest mistake by going against India, now they might have to be left only with the Associates

All Full Members except England have toured Zimbabwe in the last 4 years.

The problem is the lack of away tours for Zimbabwe; even India isn't accommodating. Maybe now by siding with the other 8 Full Members, Zimbabwe might actually get some tours.

[tawac]

All Full Members except England have toured Zimbabwe in the last 4 years.

The problem is the lack of away tours for Zimbabwe; even India isn't accommodating. Maybe now by siding with the other 8 Full Members, Zimbabwe might actually get some tours.

That's a big MAYBE, we may as well dine with the Afgans of this world and even they are proving to be a tough huddle for us.

[Kriterion_BD]

India only sent their A team. when was the last time they sent their first XI?

9-1 means the rest realized their stregnth as one.

C team, B Team, Z team doesn't matter. Games were all of International status, players represented National Team and the thing that matters most is India never neglected or pulled off touring Zimbabwe like others did and nearly played whenever the officials arranged series between the two countries.

When its comes to India A team. The level of infrastructure India got even A teams looks like strong national team. In recently held practice matches of all the tour India got this season. A team performers shined. Uncapped stars like Shreyas Iyer slammed a double ton against Aussies. Players like Pant, Nair all did well. Even A team were in the verge of defeating Bangladesh, thanks to the game being of two days.

Tour matches dont mean anything. India A nearly beat BD in 2 days but took India first XI full 5 days. Is their A team really stronger than Kohlis squad? Happens all the time... county sides beat touring sides who then go onto beat England.

The ICC made a bigger offer than india and the ZC took, which was the right move. They will now have the same fate as the others.

[The Robot]

Impact of Vote :


Zimbabwe will be happy to get equal share and have to concentrate in cricket only with the associates now.

Regular Vistors India will not tour Zimbabwe, fate will be decided later.

England has ban cricket ties with Zim since 2003.

Australia Tours Zimbabwe after a decade

Pakistan will tour Zimbabwe on condition of playing Zimbabwe in Pakistan in return tour.

Sri Lankans & West Indies takes nearly six years to arrange series against Zimbabwe.

Bangladesh always postopone tour of Zimbabwe and use Zim by their requirement.

ZC will now have to be happy with Kiwis and Proteas who plays Zimbabwe every two years.

[Black Mamba]

India only sent their A team. when was the last time they sent their first XI?

9-1 means the rest realized their stregnth as one.

C team, B Team, Z team doesn't matter. Games were all of International status, players represented National Team and the thing that matters most is India never neglected or pulled off touring Zimbabwe like others did and nearly played whenever the officials arranged series between the two countries.

When its comes to India A team. The level of infrastructure India got even A teams looks like strong national team. In recently held practice matches of all the tour India got this season. A team performers shined. Uncapped stars like Shreyas Iyer slammed a double ton against Aussies. Players like Pant, Nair all did well. Even A team were in the verge of defeating Bangladesh, thanks to the game being of two days.

Tour matches dont mean anything. India A nearly beat BD in 2 days but took India first XI full 5 days. Is their A team really stronger than Kohlis squad? Happens all the time... county sides beat touring sides who then go onto beat England.

The ICC made a bigger offer than india and the ZC took, which was the right move. They will now have the same fate as the others.

County in UK is differant. Conditions are fully differant for countries touring UK from Asia, Africa or Australia.

Asian Country touring another Asian country with similar condition is not of such great differance. Hence performance of India A team matters against the asian team.

[ricky]

Also feel what might have prompted to vote against BCCI. Zim board is in huge debt and they knew very well if monies dont come in pretty soon even India tour wont help. ICC had offered to pay extra 19 million usd to help Zim cricket to clear their debt. This was now or never opportunity for them. In the long run its sensible decision. With now a Professional MD, and the money flowing in, Zim can afford to invest in giving batter salaries and make foreign based Zim cricketers to come back and represent Zim again. Once money comes in, I bet suddenly you would see these cricketers dying to play for Zim again. Zim could now also afford floodlights at Harare Ground to host day and night fixtures. In the long run, it was very sensible of Zimbabwe cricket to vote for their own benefit. One cannot burn his own house in order to please a neighbor. I dont think BCCI also know what big mess Zim cricket was in and hopefully understand their decision and forgive them .

[Kriterion_BD]

Asian Country touring another Asian country with similar condition is not of such great differance. Hence performance of India A team matters against the asian team.

So India A is a much stronger team than India? India A almost won in 2 days, right? So shouldn't the first XI win in 2 days??? The match went to tea on day 5 which means it could easily have been drawn if not for the soft dismissals.

Also Aussies, kiwis, saffers are used to english conditions yet still struggle against county sides.

Finally recall 2015 world cup...Zim won every warmup, lost to all teams including associat ireland. Bangladesh lost EVERY tour match, even vs ireland but made the quarterfinals, and if that was a fluke, subsequently thrashed India, Pakistan, SA in bilaterals.

Warm ups are just that: low intensity affairs where key players are rested and no one plays at even 75%. Why risk injury?

Some teams may go hard in warm ups cuz thats their only chance at winning.

[Black Mamba]

Asian Country touring another Asian country with similar condition is not of such great differance. Hence performance of India A team matters against the asian team.

So India A is a much stronger team than India? India A almost won in 2 days, right? So shouldn't the first XI win in 2 days??? The match went to tea on day 5 which means it could easily have been drawn if not for the soft dismissals.

Also Aussies, kiwis, saffers are used to english conditions yet still struggle against county sides.

Finally recall 2015 world cup...Zim won every warmup, lost to all teams including associat ireland. Bangladesh lost EVERY tour match, even vs ireland but made the quarterfinals, and if that was a fluke, subsequently thrashed India, Pakistan, SA in bilaterals.

Warm ups are just that: low intensity affairs where key players are rested and no one plays at even 75%. Why risk injury?

Some teams may go hard in warm ups cuz thats their only chance at winning.

Aussies, Kiwis never suffers much against the county sides, whereas asians do suffers. When an asian country tours another asian country, practice matches never become so competative its just taken as warm ups, and India A fully smashed Bangladesh in that practice game and even uncapped one looked superior against Bangladesh.

And, Bangladesh went to quarterfinal in 2015 World Cup is the biggest fluke, because of the game against Australia called off due to rain, and points were shared equally, weak team gaining points against team like Australia that too in Australia in a WC Cup league game is the luckiest thing to happen, it made Bangladesh to take the third spot in that group after Aussies and Kiwis and that affected England mentally.

If that Australia Bangladesh clash would have taken place, Advantage would have been with England.

[Kriterion_BD]

So India is weaker than their own A side, eh. Fair enough.

But check the Points table again please...even with a loss to the Aussies we had enough points for the QF. We would have beaten the kiwis too had Shakib reviwed the lbw appeal of Guptill.

Warm up matches mean nothing.

Just last week Pakistan got thrashed by WI A team...Hetmeyer hit a hundred. But in the real matches Windies got thrashed. Pitch in Jamaica was very similar to asian ones.

[Black Mamba]

So India is weaker than their own A side, eh. Fair enough.

But check the Points table again please...even with a loss to the Aussies we had enough points for the QF. We would have beaten the kiwis too had Shakib reviwed the lbw appeal of Guptill.

Warm up matches mean nothing.

Just last week Pakistan got thrashed by WI A team...Hetmeyer hit a hundred. But in the real matches Windies got thrashed. Pitch in Jamaica was very similar to asian ones.

India A.........??? A useless Stuart Binny appeared as monster for Bangladesh in that 2014 series, Even Karnataka Ranji Side beat Bangladesh A side packed with national experience. When it comes to India A, nearly 80% of players are there whose class matches with international arena as a result India sends their " A " team to tours like Zimbabwe which other team simply would'nt dear to do so, thats what talent is in the country.

Recently, in 2016 Bangladesh tried to rest their seniors after two matches and play with their A team players in a T20 series against Zimbabwe in Bangladesh. They were leading the 2-0 with the help of seniors in the 4 match series but later Zimbabwe came back and drew the series 2-2.


When it comes to beating Kiwis in New Zealand. Don't create Joker of yourself. Bangladesh got beaten brutally in their recent tour to New Zealand

Bangladesh got thrashed by Sri Lanka, New Zealand, they only had one win against Afghans and Scotland. England also beat both the team but Bangladesh got better of Aussies due to luck that effected England.

When it comes to decision, Chris Jordon was given run out by the third umpire in 50-50 situation in that league game clash against Bangladesh.

Go and Check history of " Sabina Park " in Jamaica. Its one of the fastest pitch in the world provides lot of assistance to pacers, off late spinners are getting help., its never similar to asian condition.Situation of nurshing talent in West Indies and India are differant. Hetmyer is in 20 and has just started his domestic career. Board Politics is forcing their youths inexperienced players to play for national team, whereas A team players in India are far more experienced and the level of competition is too high as a result uncapped unknown players like Vijay Shankar, Shreyas Iyer smashing tons in A games against top opposition