Something to discuss

[ZIMDOGGY]

not quite about cricket (although it does relate to cricket.

Im not sure where i should post this, but its worth posting especially in the light of NZ deciding its unsafe to go to Zimbabwe.I'd love to see some of the views of the zimbabwe based posters here.

This is the official government warning of Zimbabwe.
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We advise you to reconsider your need to travel to Zimbabwe at this time due to politically motivated violence in some rural areas, the high level of criminal activity, the absence of the rule of law, and the poor economic conditions which could lead to civil unrest.

If you do decide to travel to Zimbabwe, you should exercise extreme caution. You should avoid unnecessary local travel and follow the advice of local authorities. Pay close attention to your personal security at all times and monitor the media and other local sources of information about possible new safety or security risks.

The situation in Zimbabwe is generally calm, although incidents of political violence still occur in rural areas. You should remain vigilant and avoid high-density (lower-income) urban areas because of the potential for the security situation to deteriorate.

You should avoid demonstrations, street rallies and any political gatherings as they may turn violent. Police and security forces are likely to respond violently and may not distinguish between demonstrators and bystanders.

The security situation could deteriorate quickly and with little warning, and Australians could be caught up in violence directed at others. In these circumstances, departure options may be severely restricted. The Australian Government's ability to provide consular services may be limited. See the Civil Unrest/Political Tension section for further information on contingency planning.

Health services in Zimbabwe are extremely poor. A severe cholera outbreak affected most of Zimbabwe from August 2008 until July 2009. Cholera deaths have decreased and as at January 2010, only five deaths had been reported from 149 cholera cases. The disease is still present and may breakout again with little warning. See the Health Issues section for details.

The level of HIV/AIDS infection in Zimbabwe is very high.

Because of the uncertain security situation in Zimbabwe, we strongly recommend that you register your travel and contact details, so we can contact you in an emergency.

[Flower power]

I dont know when this article was written . I think journalism has lost its intrgrity and it is now used to manipulate people to think in the way whoever has power to think in that way . I no longer respect the work of journalists cause i dont know weather they will be telling the truth or pushing an agenda for some fat cat .
I no longer beliveve journalists coz they are so one sided .
It is the same journalist who were clamouring about safety in India , unless they become real thats wen i will start believing .

[ZIMDOGGY]

i agree with you.
However the above isnt an articcle.
Its the government factfile on travelling overseas.

I picked Zimbabwe and those are the travel warnings.




I now wish to cross reference this with some of the people down on ground zero.

[sloandog]

I'm in Zimbabwe right now, and it's my firsy time since i was a baby, and i can tell you now, there's no threat of violence or criminal activity here. It really does frustrate me to read such "over the top" articles on the situation here in Zimbabwe. Good post ZIMDOGGY

[Flower power]

Its a pity .I have been born in Zimbabwe and the last time I can say some of these issues that are being said were at the lowest was in 2008 wen the Cholera issue went out of hand . As for safety i would say it is much safer to walk on the streets of Harare as compred to say Johanesburg or London . I can tell you that I can walk at 10pm without fear . So i guess all this is juss a political thing .
Zim has been hosting international teams and they have been no incidences . Zimbabwe has clubs playing soccer in the African Champions League and recently the T20 domestic competition was hosted in Zim where a bunch of international players were present . They should have complined if the conditions were not good .

[andy24]

i never been in the streets of Zimbabwe, but u just have to here the stories that come out of the streets of melbourne. yet no one country would have trouble sending a team there. I say that article is purely political

[jamthala]

One thing is clear zim good coming back.

[ZIMDOGGY]

what about being safe at 3am?
thats about the time i wander around drunk after clubbing.


Anyway,
it looks as if this is outdated by about 12 months.......I also think Zimbabwe just get lumped into South Africa alot...sometimes with reason...sometimes not.


The issue for me personally is i just dont trust africa. You know barbarian rule is always around the corner even if things are fine today. It just takes a significant event and we are back to the stone age.

The other thing about crime is alot of the perpetrators are anonymous and hard to identify and that is scary.




I ask one question though.....
Whats safer?
Zimbabwe or SA?

Considering teams travel to SA and the IPL etc was played there as well as the world cup. Ansd the impending civil war after the killing of Eugene Terreblanche. I'll be very intersted if SA is considered worse.