Zimbabweans in the UK/Europe Club Cricket (2023)

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Re: Zimbabweans in the UK/Europe Club Cricket (2023)

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secretzimbo wrote:
Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:47 pm
Mid-season update;

Steve Saul - Grayshott (Hants) - 419 runs at 52.38, 3 wickets at 32.00
Dustin Melton - Ockbrook & Borrowash (Derby) - 65 runs at 10.83, 27 wickets at 21.37
Tinashe Muchawaya - Rockingham Colliery CC (Yorks) - 316 runs at 24.13, 30 wickets at 17.03
Remembrance Nyathi - Ryton CC (Northumberland) - 530 runs at 40.77, 23 wickets at 22.09
Brian Mudzinganyama - Wivenhoe Town CC (Essex) - 586 runs at 48.83, 23 wickets at 22.83
Shingirai Masakadza - Ackworth CC (Yorks) - 779 runs at 48.69, 51 wickets at 14.18
William Mashinge - Wellington CC (Shropshire) - 365 runs at 33.18, 0 wickets......
Cephas Zhuwao - Barton CC (Devon) - 493 runs at 61.63, 14 wickets at 15.29
Carl Mumba - Corsham CC (Somers) - 391 runs at 27.93, 27 wickets at 25.19
Tinotenda Mutombodzi - Plympton CC (Devon) - 307 runs at 34.11, 12 wickets at 16.08
Kudzai Maunze - Hadleigh CC (Kent) - 473 runs at 43.00, 5 wickets at 43.40
Connor Mitchell - St Albans CC (Hertfordshire) - 165 runs at 15.00, 21 wickets at 22.57
Ainsley Ndlovu - Cannock CC (Staffordshire) - 480 runs at 40.00, 33 wickets at 13.83
Tendai Chisoro - Epsom CC (Surrey) - 497 runs at 82.83, 15 wickets at 23.47
Tinashe Chimbambo - Compton Chandlers Ford CC (Hants) - 297 runs at 37.13, 5 wickets at 19.00
Richmond Mutumbambi - Andover CC (Hants) - 487 runs at 54.11
Brandon Diplock - Hornsey CC (Middx) - 160 runs at 22.86, 23 wickets at 16.43
Brian Bennett also playing at Ockbrook & Borrowash

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Re: Zimbabweans in the UK/Europe Club Cricket (2023)

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secretzimbo wrote:
Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:47 pm
Mid-season update;

Steve Saul - Grayshott (Hants) - 419 runs at 52.38, 3 wickets at 32.00
Dustin Melton - Ockbrook & Borrowash (Derby) - 65 runs at 10.83, 27 wickets at 21.37
Tinashe Muchawaya - Rockingham Colliery CC (Yorks) - 316 runs at 24.13, 30 wickets at 17.03
Remembrance Nyathi - Ryton CC (Northumberland) - 530 runs at 40.77, 23 wickets at 22.09
Brian Mudzinganyama - Wivenhoe Town CC (Essex) - 586 runs at 48.83, 23 wickets at 22.83
Shingirai Masakadza - Ackworth CC (Yorks) - 779 runs at 48.69, 51 wickets at 14.18
William Mashinge - Wellington CC (Shropshire) - 365 runs at 33.18, 0 wickets......
Cephas Zhuwao - Barton CC (Devon) - 493 runs at 61.63, 14 wickets at 15.29
Carl Mumba - Corsham CC (Somers) - 391 runs at 27.93, 27 wickets at 25.19
Tinotenda Mutombodzi - Plympton CC (Devon) - 307 runs at 34.11, 12 wickets at 16.08
Kudzai Maunze - Hadleigh CC (Kent) - 473 runs at 43.00, 5 wickets at 43.40
Connor Mitchell - St Albans CC (Hertfordshire) - 165 runs at 15.00, 21 wickets at 22.57
Ainsley Ndlovu - Cannock CC (Staffordshire) - 480 runs at 40.00, 33 wickets at 13.83
Tendai Chisoro - Epsom CC (Surrey) - 497 runs at 82.83, 15 wickets at 23.47
Tinashe Chimbambo - Compton Chandlers Ford CC (Hants) - 297 runs at 37.13, 5 wickets at 19.00
Richmond Mutumbambi - Andover CC (Hants) - 487 runs at 54.11
Brandon Diplock - Hornsey CC (Middx) - 160 runs at 22.86, 23 wickets at 16.43
One (maybe dumb) question: do these clubs pay Zimbabwean expatriates or simply provide flight + accomodation + local expenses?
I truly have no idea

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We paid william Mashinge 7k for the summer as well as flights, accommodation and gym membership. He also had to conduct coaching clinics twice a week

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sloandog wrote:
Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:03 pm
We paid william Mashinge 7k for the summer as well as flights, accommodation and gym membership. He also had to conduct coaching clinics twice a week
This is a good deal considering how much the average domestic cricketer earns on those seasonal contracts. No wonder why they keep going back. ZC needs to up their game and increase those domestic salaries. I'm sure they are working on it with that additional funding.

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Do you mean working on a payment plan for cricketers to remain in the country year round?
I believe that contracted players should be paid 12 months of the year, but if they get a gig overseas in the off season they could maybe then take half and be able to travel.

It's vital for young guys to get out there and experience life and cricket elsewhere. Get to open a couple of accounts overseas, get some moolah in the bank and be able to make some choices.

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Googly wrote:
Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:39 am
Do you mean working on a payment plan for cricketers to remain in the country year round?
I believe that contracted players should be paid 12 months of the year, but if they get a gig overseas in the off season they could maybe then take half and be able to travel.

It's vital for young guys to get out there and experience life and cricket elsewhere. Get to open a couple of accounts overseas, get some moolah in the bank and be able to make some choices.
I actually think this UK club cricket model works well actually. It might be what the likes of Wes needed to experience but can't because they are on national contracts.

I agree either they get paid half when they go to the UK or just increase those seasonal wages to get to liveable amounts.

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Re: Zimbabweans in the UK/Europe Club Cricket (2023)

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There's a few problems with club cricket.
Firstly you ideally need to be playing in a Premier league or the standard drops off pretty drastically. Div 1 is not too bad but thereafter it tails off. You often find that when a Div1 side gets promoted they last a season and get sent down again.
Secondly there's limited opportunity to practice. Most guys that play club have work and maybe set aside one or two days tops to have a net. That doesn't make a lot of difference because that's what most of our guys do anyway :lol:
A helluva lot of famous internationals played UK club cricket at some point, especially Aussies and Kiwis, its like a right of passage so I certainly recommend it for a couple of seasons, and if you're not going to make an international side well keep going until you get married, have other commitments or just get bored of the nomadic lifestyle.
Guys like Cephas are doing it at 40, but that's out of necessity because this place offers so few opportunities.
Cephas in fact gets a few bucks for turning up to play club here. If you don't get him out cheaply you've lost, surely has to be worth something.
I find it interesting how the clubs work there and the fact that there's quite a few bucks in the system. It's more than members paying their subs and doing fund raising, all of the better clubs have a few well heeled benefactors. They also have a large number of kids and there's club age group cricket from about u10. Most (?) Of these kids also play school cricket, and there's plenty of girls and gender fluid 9 year olds in the mix as well.
As soon as kids are involved parents pay, but only in First World countries. Poor communities generally don't fork out a cent, they try and take advantage of a system in place created by better off folk. They won't even contribute in kind. If that doesn't exist (or has been broken ( :lol: ) then they rely on the government or an organization for absolutely everything. Thats the problem we face here. There are good players here that I'm prepared to guarantee haven't had a parent watch a single game or practice in 20 years. You'd surely be vaguely interested in what your child has been doing for the last two decades? A number of players here have soldiered on through some serious adversity. If they don't change the way things are done when they have their own kids then there's no plan.

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When we had William, we were promoted into the North Staffordshire and South Cheshire Prem, which is a very good standard. He struggled massively with both bat and ball. He scored a 93* against top of the league but that was it. He bowled 120 wides and averaged 20 I think with the bat.
He got snapped up by Wellington the following summer, which is a much inferior standard, and he bossed it. Not sure what deal he's on but I can guarantee he won't be on a 7k wage with a gym membership and a car.

Diplock playing in the UK again is good to see. I know he has issues with his visa because of a trip to Oz, I think? Dipaz if you're reading this, get yourself to Woodhouses CC next summer, Atherton's old club. GMCL Prem cricket and a serious club, looking for fast bowling all rounder

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