nathan waller why is he a forgotten man

[aydee]

The scores are against lesser attacks and if he wants to be a good cricketer to play for Zimbabwe he needs to suck up the pain and bloody bowl and bat for hundresds if you had said he scored 3 Logan cup hundreds yes i would now call him average but he must be lumped with the average bunch of players collecting USD800 monthly checks. The truth of the matter is that Nathan is quite far if not even a dream away from the selectors minds like a lot of players. The gap between the Franchise and National team is huge case in point Slugs double hundred last week and Chakabvas back to back hundreds thats the standard i expect.

Fair enough. I'm not suggesting he should expect any national recognition any time soon. Not sure that anyone else was either.

[gargamel]

My growing frustration is with the comfort levels of a number of our potential national team players who will help us in the transition phase after the loss of what i believe would have been out best under 19 group this year. The level of mediocrity in the FC system is alarming to the extent that

1. we dont have guys bowling 140 a will we
2. We dont have spinners who are a real threat on any local surface
3. We dont have guys outside the National Team guys who are scoring hundreds and pushing for spots in the national team.

We have come to accept that the poor performances as our what is normal but in truth the level that our FC is in my eyes not a good a some top 4 club cricket or just above provincial cricket. I hope the associate provincial cricket in the winter starting in April will unveil some hungry talent that will raise the stakes for Franchise selection. I wont celebrate or praise mediocre milestones like Bothwell Chapungu who took 90 innings to get a FC 100, Thabo Mboyi after 36 matches and pssibly 72 innings takes his first fiive for but still to pass 50 FC wickets. We have the Foster Mutizwa and Fat Tino Mawoyos who are just blocking the path of the Murray's Snyders, Ives Zambukos of this country from playing. No more mediocre cricket we need standards as high as the Aussies

[aydee]

I hope the associate provincial cricket in the winter starting in April will unveil some hungry talent that will raise the stakes for Franchise selection.

Can you tell a little more about this?

A bridge between Club and Franchise cricket has long been a necessity, could this be it? Also, would there be any kind of "promotion" available to the province that wins this competition.

Hopefully we will be able to see some scores from these matches.

[gargamel]

The associate members f ZC will be playing over 7 or 8 weeks of 3 day and 1 day cricket with T20's over a weekend . The plan is to spread the game in associate provinces which include Mash Central , West and East and Mat South and Masvingo. The plan is to give local players in the associate provnces a chance to develop and prepared for a step up to franchise. The best result could possibly see a new franchise be supported based on its player base , potential community involvement and sponsorship support by local businesses in the area. My money is in Mash Central

[aydee]

The associate members f ZC will be playing over 7 or 8 weeks of 3 day and 1 day cricket with T20's over a weekend . The plan is to spread the game in associate provinces which include Mash Central , West and East and Mat South and Masvingo. The plan is to give local players in the associate provnces a chance to develop and prepared for a step up to franchise. The best result could possibly see a new franchise be supported based on its player base , potential community involvement and sponsorship support by local businesses in the area. My money is in Mash Central

Excellent stuff. A 5th franchise is much needed in my opinion. Would any current franchise players associated with any of these "associate" provinces be available? I'm thinking of the likes of Vitori and Mutumbami, who could potentially represent Masvingo? This could raise the standard, and give a more accurate reflection of the relative playing standards in the provinces in question.

I hope to see ZC publish the scorecards for this tournament. Seems like a sensible and important initiative from ZC. Hopefully it succeeds.

[Mueddie28]

We complain about ballance ,kyle jarvis, B Talyor, Burl & sean ervine leaving because of the quota system. ..

[ZIMDOGGY]

I hope the associate provincial cricket in the winter starting in April will unveil some hungry talent that will raise the stakes for Franchise selection.

Can you tell a little more about this?

A bridge between Club and Franchise cricket has long been a necessity, could this be it? Also, would there be any kind of "promotion" available to the province that wins this competition.

I disagree. Why does there need to be a bridge?

There are 8 clubs in Harare that play competitive cricket that feeds into the franchise system.
8.

Let's put this into perspective. Imagine if Manchester United had 8 teams feeding into it?

The jump isn't from club to franchise.

The jump is franchise to international that is too much for some.

[Flakeman]

Zimdoggy is right. 1st League and Franchise cricket here is literally the same standard.

[aydee]

I hope the associate provincial cricket in the winter starting in April will unveil some hungry talent that will raise the stakes for Franchise selection.

Can you tell a little more about this?

A bridge between Club and Franchise cricket has long been a necessity, could this be it? Also, would there be any kind of "promotion" available to the province that wins this competition.

I disagree. Why does there need to be a bridge?

There are 8 clubs in Harare that play competitive cricket that feeds into the franchise system.
8.

Let's put this into perspective. Imagine if Manchester United had 8 teams feeding into it?

The jump isn't from club to franchise.

The jump is franchise to international that is too much for some.

That works fine for the Eagles. But cricket development in the rest of the country can't be completely ignored. Sure, much of the talent is Harare concentrated at present. But that should be something that to be changed, rather than encouraged, surely?

[ZIMDOGGY]

You want to increase cricketing participation in development areas? Fine, and that's noble. How is creating first class teams there going to help? Wouldn't you be looking at creating local friendly competitions ?

First class should be very tough to break but reality is its just on par with decent club teams. It's a worry.

You have 8 Harare clubs and 6 Bulawayo clubs feed a 4 pointed franchise system. Roughly one in 5 club players thereabout play first class professionally.


In Australia it would be 1 in 2000 get that privilege.

It's not like a casino where you build it and they will come, nor are franchises money spinners with bumper crowds.

My suggestion is keep it at four and have a best of five Harare v Bulawayo team. Create the extra level on top. Like possibles v probables they do.