Hami & Williams are not class. Good in ZImbabwe's standards but not no class. That is why one is a 30 average player, and the other doesn't have a century despite e.g. Raza getting a century from batting lower.
I've already said this before, against weak opposition I see no problem in blanket changes to the team (just a problem with Hami dropped but Williams not on the basis of form). 2015 post world cup, was the best time to do that and give fringe players a long run. After all ZImbabwe needs to develop the future and benhc strength. Obviously next year with the T20 CWC coming up, a long T20 series would have been organised for the seniors who will inevitably be picked to play there. But I don't really see the need for them to be playing in these tours.
Stop talking about Maruma to derail genuine threads. You're welcome to continue discussing him amongst yourself using your foul language. I will not get involved.
If you want to discuss Malcolm Waller start by discussing how he was selected and is playing ahead of so many players who outperformed in domestic cricket. Any attempt to discuss anything else about him is downright bias. I have not included him anywhere in any of my squads for a very very long time because he has done nothing to even be worth discussing. I will not be dragged into discussions about his relevance to anything anymore!!!
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If such restraint eventuates, I will applaud.
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He tends to keep quiet when he knows he is wrong. Like when he was rubbishing Vitori who then came in and destroyed Bangladesh. Hhm was nowhere to be seen.Jemisi wrote:If such restraint eventuates, I will applaud.
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eugene wrote:He tends to keep quiet when he knows he is wrong. Like when he was rubbishing Vitori who then came in and destroyed Bangladesh. Hhm was nowhere to be seen.
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Sean Williams' poor run of form with bat & ball continued.
He has a chance in a dead rubber in which Ireland have probably rested their frontline bowlers in order to prepare for the 4 day game, but then most of the batsmen he struggled to bowl to will return.
He improved with the bat in the last game but still fell short of 50. Got 43 runs. Conceded 24 runs in 4 overs at 6rpo for no wicket. So basically contributed just 19 runs to the team effort.
Batting: 13 Matches, 265 Runs Scored, 24.09 Average, 1 Fifty
Bowling: 13 Matches, 449 Runs Conceded, 3 Wickets, 149.66 Average, 182.6 Strike Rate
Nett benefit to the team: -184 Runs
He's had a couple of decent knocks for Zimbabwe in the 2015CWC and also the 2007CWC, but by and large he has often been a liability with the bat for Zimbabwe during Series against the better sides. Far from convincing when Zimbabwe need him most.
As was the case against Pakistan(home&away), India, New Zealand, and now Ireland, the ODI Series have long been lost, in Ireland's case won, without his contribution with the bat (and more harm than good with the ball).
Yet in a recent ZCF poll he still finds himself as Zimbabwe's best batsman.
Still can't wrap my head around how someone who has failed in 5 consecutive Series, still finds himself in the team yet Hami was dropped after failing in two innings.
Like Cremer, it's pretty clear the odd impressive performances in T20 can give one a passport to heaven - Test&ODI assurance. Cephas needs to make that T20 side asap!
He has a chance in a dead rubber in which Ireland have probably rested their frontline bowlers in order to prepare for the 4 day game, but then most of the batsmen he struggled to bowl to will return.
He improved with the bat in the last game but still fell short of 50. Got 43 runs. Conceded 24 runs in 4 overs at 6rpo for no wicket. So basically contributed just 19 runs to the team effort.
Batting: 13 Matches, 265 Runs Scored, 24.09 Average, 1 Fifty
Bowling: 13 Matches, 449 Runs Conceded, 3 Wickets, 149.66 Average, 182.6 Strike Rate
Nett benefit to the team: -184 Runs
He's had a couple of decent knocks for Zimbabwe in the 2015CWC and also the 2007CWC, but by and large he has often been a liability with the bat for Zimbabwe during Series against the better sides. Far from convincing when Zimbabwe need him most.
As was the case against Pakistan(home&away), India, New Zealand, and now Ireland, the ODI Series have long been lost, in Ireland's case won, without his contribution with the bat (and more harm than good with the ball).
Yet in a recent ZCF poll he still finds himself as Zimbabwe's best batsman.
Still can't wrap my head around how someone who has failed in 5 consecutive Series, still finds himself in the team yet Hami was dropped after failing in two innings.
Like Cremer, it's pretty clear the odd impressive performances in T20 can give one a passport to heaven - Test&ODI assurance. Cephas needs to make that T20 side asap!
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I am surprised that Williams has only averaged 24 since the WC that is poor by his standards but we're lucky his poor form is still better than any replacement waiting in the wings ( Waller avg 20 - Matsi avg 22 - Maruma avg 9 ). As for his bowling he has never been a massive wicket taker he is more of a 'get through some tight overs' type of bowler. Your logic off taking his runs conceded away from his runs scored is ludicrous how can any player compete with that
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Just putting up a stat from the same filter. Post world cup, only 4 people have conceded less than 5 an over. Williams, Nyumbu, Chibhabha and Hammy. Hammy being the most economical and Williams having bowled the second most number of overs of all the bowlers on display.
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The most concerning part of that table is only Neville Madziva has taken more wickets then matches played .....
We are still struggling for Strike power in our attack .....
We are still struggling for Strike power in our attack .....
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Sean Williams is our third most economical bowler, is there no end to his talent?
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and a glaring omission of econ rate from the stats laid out to rubbish him, as if we aren't aware or at least can't look them up
