Ervine biding his time over possible Zim return

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I mean guys like Charles Coventry are typical ODI players. They come in, get the scoreboard moving, give the crowd something to cheer about, and usually gets out. All due respect to Chappie, but He'll never be a solid test cricketer. That's reality, he won't. He'll be a main stay in the ODI side, that I'm sure of, But he'll never set the world alight in the Test Arena. Guys like Taylor, Ervine and Sean Williams have that potential. I don't want to put too much added pressure on the youngsters but they are seriously talented and have as much potential as anybody in world cricket today.
Batters even like Chibhaba i think will have a huge part to play in our return to test match cricket.
Out of our young black players who can you say has solid techniques ??
I can think of Taibu, maybe Mazakadza and Chamu Chibhaba. Again i can only see Chibhaba maturing into a solid batter out of that bunch.

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Coventary will never be a Test player, but I agree that he plays his role well and even though you are on the edge with his shaky technique, you KNOW he is going to send a couple of balls out of the ground and entertain the crowd! Go Chappie!!!
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Im not at the moment, at uni in Joburg.

As for Coventry, his technique is actually quite sound. If anything possibly better than an out of form Taylor! His mindset and requirement in an IDO or t20 is a smash and grap and play a cameo, however if he was asked, im sure he would be able to plat a test match innings.

He is just doing what he is asked, like Lamb, he is there to support the bigger hitters, even Ervine who just kept his wicket while others played a cameo around him, thats fair enough.

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zimdan wrote:Im not at the moment, at uni in Joburg.

As for Coventry, his technique is actually quite sound. If anything possibly better than an out of form Taylor! His mindset and requirement in an IDO or t20 is a smash and grap and play a cameo, however if he was asked, im sure he would be able to plat a test match innings.

He is just doing what he is asked, like Lamb, he is there to support the bigger hitters, even Ervine who just kept his wicket while others played a cameo around him, thats fair enough.
Sorry i disagree, Chappy has a very unstable technique in the sense he either gets to it to early or to late. Hes an x factor.
I like him, he knows his role as does the team. But he makes me nervous out there.
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ZIMDOGGY wrote:
zimdan wrote:Im not at the moment, at uni in Joburg.

As for Coventry, his technique is actually quite sound. If anything possibly better than an out of form Taylor! His mindset and requirement in an IDO or t20 is a smash and grap and play a cameo, however if he was asked, im sure he would be able to plat a test match innings.

He is just doing what he is asked, like Lamb, he is there to support the bigger hitters, even Ervine who just kept his wicket while others played a cameo around him, thats fair enough.
Sorry i disagree, Chappy has a very unstable technique in the sense he either gets to it to early or to late. Hes an x factor.
I like him, he knows his role as does the team. But he makes me nervous out there.
Ya lets look at the facts here. Charles Coventry doesn't have a sound tecnique. It's okay yes, but not as good as a Brendan Taylor or a Sean Williams say. He goes in there, hits some big 6's, entertains the crowd and then gets out.
If he was asked to build a long innings say, i reckon he'd struggle. He's be too tempted to go after the half volly, or pull a ball the should be ducked or left alone. He's not there in terms of being a test match batter just yet, but he could be in a few years with some hard work.

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zimdan wrote:
As for Coventry, his technique is actually quite sound. If anything possibly better than an out of form Taylor! His mindset and requirement in an IDO or t20 is a smash and grap and play a cameo, however if he was asked, im sure he would be able to plat a test match innings.

He is just doing what he is asked, like Lamb, he is there to support the bigger hitters, even Ervine who just kept his wicket while others played a cameo around him, thats fair enough.
He may not be having the best of the techniques but then just give him half of the chances out of the total extended run of Greg Lamb and he will certainly deliver. He is like Craig Wishart...bundle of talent but inconsistent. Both scored huge 150 plus scores but never ever given one particular position to bat.

Just go back to last WI ODI series. He was not picked in starting XI for four consecutive ODI's and when he was finally included in the fifth, he was the top scorer. He was strongly criticized not long ago here and now suddenly he is in everybody's dream ODI team. Give him an extended run guys and he will deliver. Moreso, allow him to bat at no.3 in few matches and see the change. I am sure Houghton and Grant Flower will further work on him and he will again force few fellows to eat their words :D :D :D
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sloandog wrote: Out of our young black players who can you say has solid techniques ??
I can think of Taibu, maybe Mazakadza and Chamu Chibhaba. Again i can only see Chibhaba maturing into a solid batter out of that bunch.
MAYBE Hamilton Masakadza, Sloan? You are looking at potentially your best Test batsman in that team, if Sean Ervine cannot come back.

Sean Williams will surely compete but he will get 100s not 150s. Chibhabha will sparkle but will be undone sooner or later. Taibu will frustrate. Forever.

Craig Ervine is a real prospect.

Taylor cannot, because he will only be counted on flat pitches where he will slaughter and bully, like Graeme Hick.

And Charles Coventry? In a Test team?

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Conant wrote:
sloandog wrote: Out of our young black players who can you say has solid techniques ??
I can think of Taibu, maybe Mazakadza and Chamu Chibhaba. Again i can only see Chibhaba maturing into a solid batter out of that bunch.
And Charles Coventry? In a Test team?
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Conant wrote:
sloandog wrote: Out of our young black players who can you say has solid techniques ??
I can think of Taibu, maybe Mazakadza and Chamu Chibhaba. Again i can only see Chibhaba maturing into a solid batter out of that bunch.
MAYBE Hamilton Masakadza, Sloan? You are looking at potentially your best Test batsman in that team, if Sean Ervine cannot come back.

Sean Williams will surely compete but he will get 100s not 150s. Chibhabha will sparkle but will be undone sooner or later. Taibu will frustrate. Forever.

Craig Ervine is a real prospect.

Taylor cannot, because he will only be counted on flat pitches where he will slaughter and bully, like Graeme Hick.

And Charles Coventry? In a Test team?
Mate Mazakadza Won't be a genuine test star. His technique is okay, but he's got a lot of faults that need to be put right

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ervine should be bribed with a lot money. he could be your best bat.

he won't ever make it to the english first string side (well i won't say ever, but even morgan will get the chop once collingwood comes back). and morgan is a star at T20 and ODI level. ervine hasn't even gotten his cap.

if i were him, i'd rather play Test cricket for zimbabwe, than be a one-cap wonder for England. does he seriously think he can be a regular in the english side? this guy needs an agent. the NBA/NFL always tells mediocre college players where they are projected to go in a draft. someone needs to wake ervine up and tell him his country needs him.

its a no brainer really. fame and fortune all are elusive if he remains in england.
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