Two things.
1) What is FICA doing about this? Do they even exist anymore and, if so, what is the point in them other than to have their members say there is too much cricket going on every so often? Should they not exist for this? Then again I doubt Mitchell McClenaghan [insert any random franchise gravy trainer] really gives a fuck about it as long as they can get their $80,000 for two weeks work for the Detroit Dildos.
2) Sean Bell tweeted something interesting. Where is Faisal Hasnain?? Maybe the ICC don't touch this because it's a tacit acknowledgement their handling of Zimbabwe had been pathetic since the rebel crisis. Apologies if that has been mentioned before. He was a useless old stick though.
#ZCBOARD MUST GO
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found this to be a very interesting thread, the crucial points were hammered home, brings in another dimension and shocking that tawengwa would advocate for the suspension of zc....
https://twitter.com/King_Jonty_87/statu ... 2663763969
https://twitter.com/King_Jonty_87/statu ... 2663763969
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and kirsty coventry gave her thoughts regarding the suspension in an interview..
https://twitter.com/TitanLaw1/status/11 ... 7293216768
https://twitter.com/TitanLaw1/status/11 ... 7293216768
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Where’s the rest of that interview?
I’m confused...Jonty is saying Mukhulani pushed for our suspension?
I’m confused...Jonty is saying Mukhulani pushed for our suspension?
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It makes sense. A suspension would suggest the ICC does not approve of the interim board, hence the old board must be put back in. In essence then, he wants to get back in to power, so why would he care if Zim cricket suffers, as long as he gets back in.
There are way too many double standards, particularly as Mukhu is an MP. In saying that though, I think the ICC has got to a point where they are also fed up with Zim. The maladministration and corruption has been going on for so long and the ICC has wanted to suspend us for a while, I think the ICC just got a point where they got fed up and just said, screw them.
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“Players Too To Blame For ICC Ban” – Former Zimbabwe Cricketer Mamhiyo
A former professional Zimbabwe Cricket player Godwill Mamhiyo has said that cricket players in Zimbabwe need to take some f the blame for the current ICC ban on Zimbabwe Cricket.
While I feel for my fellow brothers and sisters at Zim cricket. SOME players must also kop some of the blame for the breakdown of our structures. For far too long we have pinned all the blame on Admin. FYI this is not for performance but for off the field matters… So…
A few years ago a top administrator came out and labelled us players as uneducated fools (I was Tuskers Captain at the time). Hurtful, yes! True, possibly! We were asking to be paid more and we were told we did not deserve any more than we already got…
Long story short, players have never realised how much power they posses because truly, are uneducated! Is this a fault of their own? No, it is just the modus operandi used to cripple players. Players are pulled out of school and not encouraged to study so they can be stuck…
Paid peanuts and have no alternative. This has happened over generations and the divide and conquer strategy rules. ZC knows they only have to pay the “Big 5” well and everyone else will align. Not only are administrators selfish, but so are the players…
Taibu tried to enlighten guys, but no one listened. As long as players played, the ICC was happy all was well in Zim. Yet alas it was not. Some players even forced to pay a monthly allowance to some of their “mentors”! I know a guy who in 2014 signed a contract for lets say $1000
But his pay would come in as $600 cause so and so had a direct debit on their account pretty much. I saw the pain as he told me. I am also to blame as I never came forward. But this greed runs deeper amongst players. It was in 2014/15 season when i realised i was done…
We had not been paid for about 3 months. We were on strike and formed a players union. We sat out a scheduled game and amidst that, a senior player (one of the big 5) was phoning me instructing me as Captain to get the boys on the park. I had none of it, my team mates backed me
As a group of players we agreed the payout for the World Cup must be shared amongst all Players in the country. We started playing again on this principle. Yet when the money came in and the 15 national guys split it amongst themselves with the big 5 pocketing over USD400k each!
No franchise player got a bite and the issue was never addressed. We only got paid our outstanding salaries.. Life went on. I was tired of fighting and knew guys wont fight with, why, because the vast majority of players in the system have no plan B. Its ZC money or nothing..
Players in Zim are like little children.. Cry so much when there is no food.. They get crumbs and then suddenly all is forgotten.. Only when they broke will they want to complain. This hand to mouth mentality needs to stop. Cricketers need to be buying houses and not 2nd hand cars
As a professional athlete you can never perform with a $600 salary.. When : gym membership is $100 Proper diet $250 Rent $300 & more. You start taking short cuts which lead to poor performances. You think Virat K worries about gym membership fees? Recent results are no surprise..
We played Afghan A team in 2015 and their daily allowances were about 5 times ours. They an Associates. Are we surprised they in the world cup? Cricket is a game that needs one to be in a good frame of mind to perform. Sad the economy does not help but until when will sport struggle?
My plea is that this ban be a time that players unite (for once) and get what they truly deserve. As long as players do not stand up and be counted, we will soon be like Kenya, a team that once was…For the longest time, players have allowed trash like treatment . Wake up!
All in all the power truly lies with the players."
If the "big 5" are only bothered about themselves and not prepared to strike then the rest (on peanuts) will always be earning peanuts and being forced to accept what ZC tell them and nothing will ever change. Divide and rule
The players 'united' have all the power
A former professional Zimbabwe Cricket player Godwill Mamhiyo has said that cricket players in Zimbabwe need to take some f the blame for the current ICC ban on Zimbabwe Cricket.
While I feel for my fellow brothers and sisters at Zim cricket. SOME players must also kop some of the blame for the breakdown of our structures. For far too long we have pinned all the blame on Admin. FYI this is not for performance but for off the field matters… So…
A few years ago a top administrator came out and labelled us players as uneducated fools (I was Tuskers Captain at the time). Hurtful, yes! True, possibly! We were asking to be paid more and we were told we did not deserve any more than we already got…
Long story short, players have never realised how much power they posses because truly, are uneducated! Is this a fault of their own? No, it is just the modus operandi used to cripple players. Players are pulled out of school and not encouraged to study so they can be stuck…
Paid peanuts and have no alternative. This has happened over generations and the divide and conquer strategy rules. ZC knows they only have to pay the “Big 5” well and everyone else will align. Not only are administrators selfish, but so are the players…
Taibu tried to enlighten guys, but no one listened. As long as players played, the ICC was happy all was well in Zim. Yet alas it was not. Some players even forced to pay a monthly allowance to some of their “mentors”! I know a guy who in 2014 signed a contract for lets say $1000
But his pay would come in as $600 cause so and so had a direct debit on their account pretty much. I saw the pain as he told me. I am also to blame as I never came forward. But this greed runs deeper amongst players. It was in 2014/15 season when i realised i was done…
We had not been paid for about 3 months. We were on strike and formed a players union. We sat out a scheduled game and amidst that, a senior player (one of the big 5) was phoning me instructing me as Captain to get the boys on the park. I had none of it, my team mates backed me
As a group of players we agreed the payout for the World Cup must be shared amongst all Players in the country. We started playing again on this principle. Yet when the money came in and the 15 national guys split it amongst themselves with the big 5 pocketing over USD400k each!
No franchise player got a bite and the issue was never addressed. We only got paid our outstanding salaries.. Life went on. I was tired of fighting and knew guys wont fight with, why, because the vast majority of players in the system have no plan B. Its ZC money or nothing..
Players in Zim are like little children.. Cry so much when there is no food.. They get crumbs and then suddenly all is forgotten.. Only when they broke will they want to complain. This hand to mouth mentality needs to stop. Cricketers need to be buying houses and not 2nd hand cars
As a professional athlete you can never perform with a $600 salary.. When : gym membership is $100 Proper diet $250 Rent $300 & more. You start taking short cuts which lead to poor performances. You think Virat K worries about gym membership fees? Recent results are no surprise..
We played Afghan A team in 2015 and their daily allowances were about 5 times ours. They an Associates. Are we surprised they in the world cup? Cricket is a game that needs one to be in a good frame of mind to perform. Sad the economy does not help but until when will sport struggle?
My plea is that this ban be a time that players unite (for once) and get what they truly deserve. As long as players do not stand up and be counted, we will soon be like Kenya, a team that once was…For the longest time, players have allowed trash like treatment . Wake up!
All in all the power truly lies with the players."
If the "big 5" are only bothered about themselves and not prepared to strike then the rest (on peanuts) will always be earning peanuts and being forced to accept what ZC tell them and nothing will ever change. Divide and rule
The players 'united' have all the power
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https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id ... ssion=true
Good article by Liam Brickhill. Sums up a lot more succinctly what we’ve been saying.
Good article by Liam Brickhill. Sums up a lot more succinctly what we’ve been saying.
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Good one there quoting Godwill Mamhiyo. Always came across as a calm head. Establishes what have been rumors all along.
Who are the "Big 5"? Masakadza, Taylor, Chigumbura, Utseya, and Williams?
Who are the "Big 5"? Masakadza, Taylor, Chigumbura, Utseya, and Williams?
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i would like to think it was vusi sibanda instead of williams basing on thisCrimsonAvenger wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:29 pmGood one there quoting Godwill Mamhiyo. Always came across as a calm head. Establishes what have been rumors all along.
Who are the "Big 5"? Masakadza, Taylor, Chigumbura, Utseya, and Williams?
http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/ ... to-prosper
According to the cricketers' association representative Eliah Zvimba, his relationship with the Zimbabwe players strained when he refused to employ the wives of Utseya (right), Vusi Sibanda and Elton Chigumbura (left) at the ZPCA
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Yeah, that makes more sense. I was at a loss for the fifth name so added Williams. Given his colorful history with ZC, he can hardly be in the "Big 5". Sibanda makes more sense.kudet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:27 pmi would like to think it was vusi sibanda instead of williams basing on thisCrimsonAvenger wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:29 pmGood one there quoting Godwill Mamhiyo. Always came across as a calm head. Establishes what have been rumors all along.
Who are the "Big 5"? Masakadza, Taylor, Chigumbura, Utseya, and Williams?
http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/ ... to-prosperAccording to the cricketers' association representative Eliah Zvimba, his relationship with the Zimbabwe players strained when he refused to employ the wives of Utseya (right), Vusi Sibanda and Elton Chigumbura (left) at the ZPCA