Goodbye Full Membership status?

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Mr Twig
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Zimbabwe still has the support of most boards.

Non issue.

Googly
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The problem with us Zimbos is we just resign ourselves to the next body blow. This should be the call to clean house, kick ass and take names and make an immediate change. Instead this news will increase our general state of apathy and glum resignation. By the time this axing is effected the older, better guys like Hammy, Ervine, Williams etc will hang up their boots and there's very little in the way of younger guys coming through. Plus now there will be no incentive for schoolboys to push hard because there's now no career opportunities here in cricket. There will be less money for cricketers' salaries and the downward spiral will increase in velocity. We really have been put on notice. What are we going to do about it?

Googly
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Why do you think we have the support of most Boards?

Kriterion_BD
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Mr Twig wrote:Zimbabwe still has the support of most boards.

Non issue.
Had, but not sure if present and future tense apply. In the past 5 years there have not been many Tests against Australia, India, or England. The ICC has turned a blind eye to the embezzment, which has itself killed cricket in Zimbabwe. Asides from that, what does ZC bring to the table to keep full member status? If no one gets cut, do you think Ireland and/Afghanistan will be added to the club?

We cant be sure of anything as the ICC cannot make up their mind...but the winds seem to be blowing that way.
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TapsC
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cleaning up is a very complex issue. we need completely clean guys to come in and run the game and that's where the problem is. nobody in those circles is 100% clean. whether you talking about Chingoka, Mukuhlani or Manase and Campbell . they all had allegations of shady deals against them. new elections will just recycle the current people. for example Mukuhlani was not a random person when he was picked. he had always been in those circles.

secondly our cricket is dealing with an economic collapse around which does affect our finances. in a booming economy sponsors would quadruple and things like domestic and club cricket would be sponsored and semiautonomous. millions are spent on the overall wage bill which includes everybody who is involved in cricket in the country. that really does drain resources if you think about the players the admin the ground staff etc.add the stupid debt they built over the years and incoming tours and the obvious theft going on, you are left in debt. Its even possible zimra taxes that ICC money too.

finally I also firmly believe that Afghanistan are an emerging force. get the new ODI system rolling and they will roll over quite a few full members. it is more of us stagnating and Afghanistan and Bangladesh getting better in my opinion. IF Ireland were to roll us over constantly like Afghanistan does then I'm willing to give up. the solution to this is to make Ireland and Afghanistan full members instead of trying to cut other teams out. that's counter productive. Zimbabwe might be first but trust me others will follow. the West Indies are not as bad as us but they are also not in the best shape

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Just wait for that list of criteria to come out as well. Responsible financial accountability will only be one of our problems.
Our facade of provincial cricket will be exposed, we only realistically have resident players in Bulawayo and Harare.
There will probably be a minimum number of local FC and List A games required to be played as well.
The number of clubs and games they play may be a factor.
The number of qualified coaches and what level they're at?
The overall number of registered players may also be a consideration. This won't be a problem, we can borrow the government's dead voter role.
The reality is that they can tailor make these criteria to cause us real problems. We don't have much going for us at all.
The writing is on the wall, barring a miracle, we've got 5 years.

Googly
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As Taps says, the economy is going to have the final say. ZC dismantled the club structures so they're no longer autonomous and this is an additional expense because ZC now pay for the upkeep of a number of grounds that they didn't in the past.
There's zero corporate interest and very little public interest in the game so there's no financial relief from that quarter either. This desire by our leaders to control completely has crippled us in every facet of our lives.

Googly
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And apparently we will be allocated 60 mil up to 2022, that's before any WC payments, possible windfalls from India tours etc, but after any costs of incoming tours.
That's 32 grand a day, 365 days a year for 5 years, just saying...

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With that sort of money any half decent admin could easily pay off the debts, invest in infrastructure and cricket operations - and still have enough money left for "executive bonuses". :roll:

aydee
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brmtaylor.com admin wrote:With that sort of money any half decent admin could easily pay off the debts, invest in infrastructure and cricket operations - and still have enough money left for "executive bonuses". :roll:
I'm really not sure they would.

No other full member gets nothing from TV, sponsorship, gate receipts, etc... Pretty much all Zim gets is ICC money...

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