I dont know whats wrong with our selectors or coaches but playing burl down the order is a very big mistake, he is no slogger at all, cant give you a 13 ball 50, he is a player who feeds on batting for longer periods of time. He can easily take singles more than anyone else in that zim squad, his success at age group level was because he was opening the bat and when they moved him down the order at the u19 world cup he became useless. When he joined mash eagles he was opening and had some success and then somehow they push him down the order Why ?? .. open with mire & burl one conservative and one who goes for the ball, let burl anchor the innings thats what he is good at.
drop hami he is useless and open another spot for a bowler or all rounder
Numbers dont lie
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First things first.. does he want to open right now? If he does then it's a different story.. he still has a lot to prove in my opinion. Hami scored a struggling 41 last time out, Burl struggled for nothing. I'm not saying Burl shouldn't get a chance but it's time he gave us a knock. Rilee Rossouw struggled like that early on as well but he came good in the end. No point of talking about u19 on a domestic level if he can't show up at international level. he had all the time in the world to settle in on Sunday. For all his struggles Hami was the top scorer. Musakanda has been a top scorer at some point too. Long story short, he owes us a knock now
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Zimbabwe needs some serious changes before the ICC World Cup Qualifiers 2018. With the new financial model approved, improvement should began now.
## Comebacks should be finalized without forcing anyone. Lets hope Brendan Taylor going to back for the West Indies Test, as his Kolpak contract for Nottinghamshire comming to end within three months
## Opening Slot has been a big testing ground, at present Solomon Mire seems set as an opener, better to try Ryan Burl. Left Right Combinatikn might work. Burl Musakanda deserve some space as they are new
## Failure Players needs to get a tough message. Masakadza, Maruma, Mpofu, Chigumbura doesnt deserve anymore go. Time to give last chance to Chibhabha
## Wicket Keeping Batsman slot has been moving within Mutumbami, Chakabva & Moor. At present all these three players having similarity in performance, all of them looks like great players against weak domestic sides, A teams, Associates and none of them seems good at international arena. Its time for Zimbabwe Selectors to provide at least 25 to 30 odis to new options like Ryan Murray, Joylord Gumbie
## Bowling looks big wayward, a team having two legends as a bowling coach is struggling to provide any venom to the opponent batsman.Richard Ngarva has got pace, but struggling with line length, he needs to be developed. Tiripano is not a bowler of all condition. Board should be strong in rehabilation of Brian Vitori. He is the one who has got some skills and efforts should be more to bring him back talking with ICC.
## Inclusion of under 19 players are needed in A games and domestic cricket at larger number. Recently, they played few games against the franchises and did well. Its better to see them competing against the national team player and make a spot for national team
## Comebacks should be finalized without forcing anyone. Lets hope Brendan Taylor going to back for the West Indies Test, as his Kolpak contract for Nottinghamshire comming to end within three months
## Opening Slot has been a big testing ground, at present Solomon Mire seems set as an opener, better to try Ryan Burl. Left Right Combinatikn might work. Burl Musakanda deserve some space as they are new
## Failure Players needs to get a tough message. Masakadza, Maruma, Mpofu, Chigumbura doesnt deserve anymore go. Time to give last chance to Chibhabha
## Wicket Keeping Batsman slot has been moving within Mutumbami, Chakabva & Moor. At present all these three players having similarity in performance, all of them looks like great players against weak domestic sides, A teams, Associates and none of them seems good at international arena. Its time for Zimbabwe Selectors to provide at least 25 to 30 odis to new options like Ryan Murray, Joylord Gumbie
## Bowling looks big wayward, a team having two legends as a bowling coach is struggling to provide any venom to the opponent batsman.Richard Ngarva has got pace, but struggling with line length, he needs to be developed. Tiripano is not a bowler of all condition. Board should be strong in rehabilation of Brian Vitori. He is the one who has got some skills and efforts should be more to bring him back talking with ICC.
## Inclusion of under 19 players are needed in A games and domestic cricket at larger number. Recently, they played few games against the franchises and did well. Its better to see them competing against the national team player and make a spot for national team
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Am I missing the point here, being numbers don't lie? Who said a player down at 7 or 8 should come out guns blazing. And hitting everything out of the park? Ever heard of game awareness. In any case, we are playing 8 batsman to counter our propensity of a collapse we happens far often than not but alas Burl, Moor proving rather useless down the order. Even in situations were the game is clearly lost and they don't have much pressure but to just play their natural game. Something that Waller has been doing ever so effortlessly of late which may in turn, turn a losing position into a winning one with the correct momentum. If someone cant cut their teeth at 7 or 8 how on earth would you expect them to work some magic higher up the order.sixes fan wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 10:28 amI dont know whats wrong with our selectors or coaches but playing burl down the order is a very big mistake, he is no slogger at all, cant give you a 13 ball 50, he is a player who feeds on batting for longer periods of time. He can easily take singles more than anyone else in that zim squad, his success at age group level was because he was opening the bat and when they moved him down the order at the u19 world cup he became useless. When he joined mash eagles he was opening and had some success and then somehow they push him down the order Why ?? .. open with mire & burl one conservative and one who goes for the ball, let burl anchor the innings thats what he is good at.
drop hami he is useless and open another spot for a bowler or all rounder
Zimbabwe has built up a number of first class players who if in form should be getting called up to the National team as in Mushangwe's case. He did well in the domestic games and deserves his call up. No need to be calling up unproved U19s with no experience unless of course they are bowling at 140+ well by all means. They should be proving themselves at domestic level.
CHRISTOPHER MPOFU: 'The problem was fear of failure. I used to think that when I played, if I didn't do well in one game, I would lose my place for the next one but now I've let go of that'
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tawac wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:15 pmAm I missing the point here, being numbers don't lie? Who said a player down at 7 or 8 should come out guns blazing. And hitting everything out of the park? Ever heard of game awareness. In any case, we are playing 8 batsman to counter our propensity of a collapse we happens far often than not but alas Burl, Moor proving rather useless down the order. Even in situations were the game is clearly lost and they don't have much pressure but to just play their natural game. Something that Waller has been doing ever so effortlessly of late which may in turn, turn a losing position into a winning one with the correct momentum. If someone cant cut their teeth at 7 or 8 how on earth would you expect them to work some magic higher up the order.sixes fan wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 10:28 amI dont know whats wrong with our selectors or coaches but playing burl down the order is a very big mistake, he is no slogger at all, cant give you a 13 ball 50, he is a player who feeds on batting for longer periods of time. He can easily take singles more than anyone else in that zim squad, his success at age group level was because he was opening the bat and when they moved him down the order at the u19 world cup he became useless. When he joined mash eagles he was opening and had some success and then somehow they push him down the order Why ?? .. open with mire & burl one conservative and one who goes for the ball, let burl anchor the innings thats what he is good at.
drop hami he is useless and open another spot for a bowler or all rounder
Zimbabwe has built up a number of first class players who if in form should be getting called up to the National team as in Mushangwe's case. He did well in the domestic games and deserves his call up. No need to be calling up unproved U19s with no experience unless of course they are bowling at 140+ well by all means. They should be proving themselves at domestic level.
As if, selectors are giving chance to Under 19s in large numbers. Even Franchises are not interested in approving under 19s, just 3 players have been given contract out of those who represented in world cup 2016. Brendan Mavuta, Richards Ngarava and
William Mashinge, whereas talents like Murray, Ives, Snyder, Sly, Keefe have been ignored.
Sri Lankan under 19 school boy is setting up world record "hattrick" on debut cleaning up Zimbos tale, whereas Zimbos under 19s makes headlines by representing other nations without getting nourished in their own nation
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All im saying is we are trying to make our own puzzle by putting pieces where they dont fit. We are trying to solve a problem by creating another problem. Burl is one of the best ever batsman to come out of zim, lets play to his strengths other trying to make him solve others weaknesses. No batsmen in zim can easily play singles off almost every ball without taking risks, can easily find gaps and play through them, very comfortable agsinst the pacers abd moving ball than anyone else in that team. Burl and Mire are the best opening pair we can have. What we are trying to do is play decock or sangakkara at 8 because we fear and know hami is not good enough to last 10 overs no matter the situation. Im sure he can break all records set for him by past batsmen in zim before but we have to play him where he belongs eg mire was doomed to fail too batting thats why he opted to move
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sixes fan wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:36 pmAll im saying is we are trying to make our own puzzle by putting pieces where they dont fit. We are trying to solve a problem by creating another problem. Burl is one of the best ever batsman to come out of zim, lets play to his strengths other trying to make him solve others weaknesses. No batsmen in zim can easily play singles off almost every ball without taking risks, can easily find gaps and play through them, very comfortable agsinst the pacers abd moving ball than anyone else in that team. Burl and Mire are the best opening pair we can have. What we are trying to do is play decock or sangakkara at 8 because we fear and know hami is not good enough to last 10 overs no matter the situation. Im sure he can break all records set for him by past batsmen in zim before but we have to play him where he belongs eg mire was doomed to fail too batting thats why he opted to move
Is anybody in Zimbabwe who have handled well the spinners with variation ?
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Ryan Murray unfortunately is at University in Cape Town, so he is rarely available for any kind of Zimbabwean cricket at present - otherwise he would be most people's choice as wicketkeeper, and a fine batsman too.
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This is old news few months ago. He is back from South Africa and recently featured for Zimbabwe Under 19s against the franchises in domestic odis & t20s.
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Have you seen much of his keeping, John? I would love us to have a safe pair of hands behind the stumps.