Taylor, Jarvis set to return, talks with Ervine underprocess

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Taylor, Jarvis set to return, talks with Ervine underprocess

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Zimbabwe's revival on the field looks set to be bolstered by the return of at least one of their former star players, with talks between Zimbabwe Cricket and county duo Brendan Taylor and Kyle Jarvis at an advanced stage. While Zimbabwe's team took impressive strides forward during their tour of Sri Lanka, that has been mirrored on the administration front where gains made over the past few months could be solidified during a visit by ICC chairman Shashank Manohar next month. Manohar is due to meet with officials from the Zimbabwe government as he seeks the assurances necessary for the ICC to rubber stamp Zimbabwe's hosting of next year's World Cup qualifiers. Cricbuzz understands that the ICC conditionally awarded the tournament to Zimbabwe at its annual conference last month, choosing the country over the United Arab Emirates and a joint bid from Ireland and Scotland.

Hosting the tournament would be a big boost to Zimbabwe's hopes of qualifying for the World Cup in 2019, but having Taylor and Jarvis available would be even more significant. Fast bowler Jarvis played eight Tests and 24 One-Day Internationals for Zimbabwe before joining Lancashire on a Kolpak deal in 2013, while Taylor used the same route to sign for Nottinghamshire after the 2015 World Cup. Both players were unhappy with the way that the game was being administered in Zimbabwe when they left, but improved governance under the tenure of ZC chairman Tavengwa Mukuhlani has created confidence that better days are ahead. The appointments of former captains Heath Streak and Tatenda Taibu to key positions have brought stability to the playing group, while former ICC chief financial officer Faisal Hasnain has signed on as ZC managing director. Taylor and Jarvis still view Zimbabwe as their home and would prefer to base their family lives in the country, making a return attractive so long as there is long-term financial security.

To that end both players have requested multi-year contracts. Although ZC is in the habit of only awarding annual contracts to its players, it is willing to make an exception in this case since it acknowledges the stakes are high - if either player was to give up their Kolpak status, they would not be able to regain it. Additionally, both Taylor (31) and Jarvis (28) are still relatively young. The ICC's new revenue distribution model, which was confirmed at its annual conference, has played a significant role. Even though it receives less than the other full members, the fact that ZC will pocket around $20m more than it would have under the Big Three model has allowed it to compete with the wages that Taylor and Jarvis have been earning in county cricket.

It is understood that ZC's cash flow is still tight though, and so it may not be able to afford both players right away. Yet there is genuine confidence that Taylor could be back in Zimbabwe's batting line-up for their next assignment, a two- Test series against the West Indies in November. Hampshire's 34-year-old batsman Sean Ervine is also on ZC's radar but no formal talks have taken place. ZC's liquidity issues could be eased if it secures the loan that would allow it to clear its current debts of around $20m. The majority of that money has been borrowed from local banks at interest rates of more than 20 per cent, meaning that a crippling portion of ZC's income over the past five years has been gobbled up by interest repayments. An ICC loan at international interest rates would allow ZC to climb out of its debt hole, and the prospect will be discussed further with Manohar during his visit. Manohar will seek assurances from the Zimbabwe government that, among other things, the necessary tax exemptions can be put in place for the World Cup qualifiers. He will also travel to Victoria Falls to determine its suitability for the ICC's annual conference, after ZC bid to host the event in 2018.
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Give Kyle Jarvis so much money so he can be a speacialist Test bowler for a Zimbabwe side who won't play more than 6 Tests a year? Even WI downgraded Darrren Bravo's contract because he didn't play and perform in ODIs & T20s which generate far more money.

Brendan Taylor will play in all formats so he's worth a shot on a multi-year contract, but no more than 2 years. Has a woeful away record, and I can't see that changing in Ireland or Afghanistan(UAE/IND).

Sean Ervine is technically the more suitable all format player even though his bowling is questionable. But if you give him a multi-year contract what's to stop Mire from asking for the sam esince they are like-for-like, and walking away if he doesn't get it?

Already Zimbabwe has a few players who are overpaid but grossly under-deliver. Hami continues to do well in ODIs and T20s, I can forsee a revollt if he doesn't get payment on par with the those players.

It makes sense to go for Taylor, but why force the issue when you can give him the chance to come begging himself? ZImbabwe has failed to qualify for CWCs with him in the team, so his presence won't automatically make ZIM qualify.

Logic: Pay debts, fail to qualify then lose more revenue and be stuck with huge player contracts then be forced to borrow again?

I predicted that Allister Campbell damaged ZC for years to come with that strategy, and that proved to be the case.

The Springboks(Rugby) were losing heavily with overseas based players on long contracts assured of payment no matter the result so they underperformed. They stopped doing that, selected locals only(all races) with limited contracts, and are suddenly winning now.

Technically Brendan Taylor needs Zimbabwe more than Zimbabwe needs him. He'll ask for the job himself.

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On one hand I'm not a fan of offering these guys multi year deals if the other guys are on one year deals. But asking them to give up their Kolpak deals is a big ask and Zimbabwe have a history of player payment issues. A side with BRMT & KJ is good for Zimbabwe in all formats. Yes Hhm I know KJ's ODI stats aren't the best but after playing in England for the last 4 years I'm sure he's improved. Plus Zimbabwe has a problem finding good fast bowlers apart from Chatara. Mpofu & Tiripano can't even be trusted to bowl in the 4th innings and have been going for plenty of runs in ODI cricket in the last couple of years.

Sean Ervine would be interesting but the other two should be the priorities. If Ervine wants to return to play a WC with his brother then that's great but he's not really an investment for the future.

Hosting the WC qualifiers would be great !!! Playing in our own conditions is a massive advantage and would generate a lot of excitement for the game of cricket in Zimbabwe ......
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https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/9 ... lor-jarvis

Here's the link to the article .....

Will be interesting if the boys reply on twitter I've seen them deny claims they're returning before .....
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BRMT still in good form this season .....

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/royal-lon ... tournament
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jaybro wrote:
Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:47 am
I know KJ's ODI stats aren't the best but after playing in England for the last 4 years I'm sure he's improved.
Kyle Jarvis for Lancashire:
List A 19 matches, 23 wickets, 32 avg, 36SR, 5.22 econ
Twenty20 11 matches, 12 wickets, 8.42 econ

He's been in Lancashire since 2013, we're talkng 4+ years and that's all the LOI cricekt he's played. 4/3 matches per year respectively.

If I was a domestic cricketer in Zimbabwe (e.g. a Neville Madziva who has 20 wicekts at an average of 26 in ODIs after 12 matches, with an economy just under 6 - plus I've got solid FC batting and bowling stats enough to be an allrounder in Tests too), I wouldn't be happy Jarvis with a man 3 years older than I am with a 45 ODI average and literally no game time to back up his Limited Overs improvement getting any contract before he bowls a ball in Zimbabwe colours.

This is precisely why I say that some of the things mentioned and tolerated here are beyond belief but I get hammered for such viewpoints.

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I've posted many times about Madziva you should read more instead of just typing up rubbish .....
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jaybro wrote:
Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:30 am
I've posted many times about Madziva you should read more instead of just typing up rubbish .....
What did you write? That Madziva should play a few more Series before ZC even consider Jarvis? That Jarvis must not be given a multi-year contract and that privilege of a multi-year contract must instead go to Madziva? That Jarvis must still get a multi-year contract, be selected in the XI, and Madziva continue out of the squad?

I'm not sure what exactly you wrote that I must read which is in contrast or consistent with my rubbish? Kindly give me a link so I can read it. As you know I was away from the forum for a very long time.

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The good times could well and truly be back. Something is going on behind the scenes at ZC. We even heard AC in the commentary team after his fallout with the current board. We need everybody back and contributing.

I think there are going to be a lot more fixtures with the new full members. We might be looking at playing about 8-10 tests a year now and 20 ODIs with the league. We tend to have small man syndrome here in zim. Every successful team has got huge squads of class players. Madziva is talented and i would back him to be in the squad but you can't cry when there is competition. It should make you better. Neville has a national contract and he hasn't played in ages anyway. We need all the guys we can get back.. they should target the likes of byrom and Welch and Snater too.

My only worry is that they might be over commuting themselves financially here with the conferences and hosting the qualifier. If we don't qualify for the WC we would be in a serious financial hole after hosting all of that stuff

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TapsC wrote:
Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:12 pm
My only worry is that they might be over commuting themselves financially here with the conferences and hosting the qualifier. If we don't qualify for the WC we would be in a serious financial hole after hosting all of that stuff
Don't these thing pay for themselves and leave us better off? 2018 is an election year in Zimbabwe I wonder how this will affect the qualifiers. All in all it would be great to have the Taylors back, Zimbabwe needs its best players back in the fold. We have a very limited player pool and having cover would be a great thing. Welly and Chitara left us in a tight position when they got injured. Zimbabwe barely plays enough cricket to have a stable team we always chopping and changing. It was great to see some consentience in our selection from the European tour and obviously reaping the rewards with the a relatively successful tour of Sri Lanka. At list now we can target areas that need to be worked on we obviously have players that can step up and fill in those roles.
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