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Mangongo casts the net wide for Under-19 World Cup

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ZIMBABWE Under-19 cricket team coach Stephen Mangongo has cast his selection net far and wide in search of the best talent for next year’s International Cricket Council (ICC) Under-19 World Cup to be staged in New Zealand.

Mangongo last week named a 24-member provisional squad, which, as largely expected, is dominated by the crème de la crème of local schoolboy cricket. The team is stepping up preparations for the youth global showcase scheduled for January 13 to February 3 2018.

And, in a surprising yet welcome development, the former Zimbabwe national senior team coach has included six players who are plying their trade beyond the country’s borders.

Headlining the foreign-based players in the squad is England-based Donald Mlambo, who has been in brilliant form for the Suffolk based Cricket Club, Copdock & Old Ipswichian.

Copdock play their trade in the East Anglian Premier League in the UK.

Mangongo also included four players who are plying their trade at some of the leading private and public schools in South Africa.

Three of the players ply their trade in Durban.

They are Alistair Frost (Hilton College), Tinashe Nenhunzi (Durban High School, SA), Marshall Takodza (Glenwood High School, SA) and Taun Harrison who is one of the leading players at the Cape Town-based South African College School.

Former Churchill High School young prodigy Wesley Madhevere, who is now at St Charles, is also well-poised to make his second World Cup appearance in New Zealand after a memorable debut last year when he was just 15 years old.

While the foreign-based players are expected to bring a new dimension to the World Cup-bound youth team, it is the local schools’ cricket talent which forms the backbone of the strong squad.

In-form skipper Liam Roche, a student at St George’s College, leads the cast of local young stars.

The others include Churchill’s Milton Shumba and Prince Edward’s pace bowler Dion Mazhawidza, as well as the Peterhouse duo of Robert Chiminya and Tawanda Muyeye, among others.

St John’s College star Jayden Schadendorf, a pace bowling all-rounder who also bats up the order, is also one of the players to watch in the talented squad which also features his 14-year-old younger brother Dane.

At the 2018 World Cup, Zimbabwe U19 will battle it out in Group B alongside India, Australia and Papua New Guinea.

Last month Zimbabwe toured Australia and India and will round up their preparations for the World Cup with a series against Western Province Academy in Cape Town next month.

The Zimbabwe provisional squad is expected to train twice a week until the final 15 players are selected.

Zimbabwe U19 World Cup Provisional Squad:

Liam Roche (Captain, St George’s College), Wesley Madhevere (St Charles, SA), Greg Dollar (St Joh’s College), Milton Shumba (Churchill), Jayden Schadendorff (St John’s College), Tanunurwa Makoni (Prince Edward), Donald Mlambo (Copdock & Old Ipswichian Cricket Club, UK), Alistair Frost (Hilton College, SA), Taun Harrison (South African College High School),

Dion Myers (St George’s College), Nkosilatu Nunu, Jonathan Connolly (Falcon College), Privilege Chesa (Churchill), Tawanda Muyeye (Peterhouse), Kieran Robinson (St George’s College), Makdhum Talati (Prince Edward), Dion Mazhawidza (Prince Edward),

Tinotenda Jakachira (Eaglesvale), Dane Schadendorff (St John’s College), Tinashe Nenhunzi (Durban High School, SA), Marshall Takodza (Glenwood High School, SA), Arnold Shara (Milton), Robert Chimhinya (Peterhouse), Struan Moore-Gordon (Peterhouse).
We are in a tough group and may suffer badly in the tournament proper, but we really need to commend Mangongo (and ZC) for building this team and giving them the exposure for that last couple of years. This is the most well oiled and well organized U19 team in ages. He has even gone out of the way to bring people outside Zim into selection contention. Hope quite a few of these young players make use of the new development structures set up via Rising Stars and be the future of the country's cricket.

This is the legacy of Mangongo that should remain for a long time, and hopefully would be celebrated when one looks back years from now.

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Mangongo last week named a 24-member provisional squad, which, as largely expected, is dominated by the crème de la crème of local schoolboy cricket. The team is stepping up preparations for the youth global showcase scheduled for January 13 to February 3 2018.

And, in a surprising yet welcome development, the former Zimbabwe national senior team coach has included six players who are plying their trade beyond the country’s borders.

Headlining the foreign-based players in the squad is England-based Donald Mlambo, who has been in brilliant form for the Suffolk based Cricket Club, Copdock & Old Ipswichian.

Copdock play their trade in the East Anglian Premier League in the UK.

Mangongo also included four players who are plying their trade at some of the leading private and public schools in South Africa.

Three of the players ply their trade in Durban.

They are Alistair Frost (Hilton College), Tinashe Nenhunzi (Durban High School, SA), Marshall Takodza (Glenwood High School, SA) and Taun Harrison who is one of the leading players at the Cape Town-based South African College School.

Former Churchill High School young prodigy Wesley Madhevere, who is now at St Charles, is also well-poised to make his second World Cup appearance in New Zealand after a memorable debut last year when he was just 15 years old.

While the foreign-based players are expected to bring a new dimension to the World Cup-bound youth team, it is the local schools’ cricket talent which forms the backbone of the strong squad.

In-form skipper Liam Roche, a student at St George’s College, leads the cast of local young stars.

The others include Churchill’s Milton Shumba and Prince Edward’s pace bowler Dion Mazhawidza, as well as the Peterhouse duo of Robert Chiminya and Tawanda Muyeye, among others.

St John’s College star Jayden Schadendorf, a pace bowling all-rounder who also bats up the order, is also one of the players to watch in the talented squad which also features his 14-year-old younger brother Dane.

At the 2018 World Cup, Zimbabwe U19 will battle it out in Group B alongside India, Australia and Papua New Guinea.

Last month Zimbabwe toured Australia and India and will round up their preparations for the World Cup with a series against Western Province Academy in Cape Town next month.

The Zimbabwe provisional squad is expected to train twice a week until the final 15 players are selected.

Zimbabwe U19 World Cup Provisional Squad:

Liam Roche (Captain, St George’s College), Wesley Madhevere (St Charles, SA), Greg Dollar (St Joh’s College), Milton Shumba (Churchill), Jayden Schadendorff (St John’s College), Tanunurwa Makoni (Prince Edward), Donald Mlambo (Copdock & Old Ipswichian Cricket Club, UK), Alistair Frost (Hilton College, SA), Taun Harrison (South African College High School),

Dion Myers (St George’s College), Nkosilatu Nunu, Jonathan Connolly (Falcon College), Privilege Chesa (Churchill), Tawanda Muyeye (Peterhouse), Kieran Robinson (St George’s College), Makdhum Talati (Prince Edward), Dion Mazhawidza (Prince Edward),

Tinotenda Jakachira (Eaglesvale), Dane Schadendorff (St John’s College), Tinashe Nenhunzi (Durban High School, SA), Marshall Takodza (Glenwood High School, SA), Arnold Shara (Milton), Robert Chimhinya (Peterhouse), Struan Moore-Gordon (Peterhouse).[/quote]

We are in a tough group and may suffer badly in the tournament proper, but we really need to commend Mangongo (and ZC) for building this team and giving them the exposure for that last couple of years. This is the most well oiled and well organized U19 team in ages. He has even gone out of the way to bring people outside Zim into selection contention. Hope quite a few of these young players make use of the new development structures set up via Rising Stars and be the future of the country's cricket.

This is the legacy of Mangongo that should remain for a long time, and hopefully would be celebrated when one looks back years from now.
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Managing is redeeming himself maybe he can also double as the Zimbabwe A coach because Hondo is useless...

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Mangongo is more suited to coaching kids than professionals. I think he should also be part of the rising starts selection panel since he does know the kids better than Taibu.

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I think he gets abrasive when perhaps professionals aren’t behaving as such. A lot of the FC guys don’t have a great work ethic because cricket has stagnated here for so long.
I’ve seen how hard some pro’s work overseas and our guys, with a few notable exceptions, don’t do the extra yards. I remember clearly how hard Flower and Traicos worked at their games, we’ve got nobody that comes close. If we get a couple of extra guys competing for spots it will make a difference. The problem is when a guy wants to do a few hours a Day with a bat, who throws and who corrects? I recall a story that when Hick went to Worcestershire he used to bat obsessively for 3-4 hours a day (pre-season), as did Kallis. Klusener can’t give throwdowns to everyone. I’ve seen so many coaches with elbow and shoulder problems from throwdowns. The solution here is a couple of bowling machines. Those Merlins for spin are incredible. They even have a screen behind so you can see the bowler of your choice bowling the deliveries of your choice. In UK there are many schools with these machines (£30k a pop). ZC have the bog standard ones. Of course you can do a lot with them though. We rely on ZC for all funding, even down to Club level, we must be fairly unique in that regard. I’m certain that most countries have financially independent clubs.

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Millfield School in Somerset has a greenhouse-type net that requires air pressure to keep it properly inflated, you walk through a double air door. You can change the temperature and humidify, loudspeakers to simulate crowd noise, different matting for different conditions, a Merlin 3, cameras behind the nets that feed into a central computer room that stores sessions, sends out live feeds on all school games (most sports). We only have PeterHouse that has a proper set up, but it doesn’t compare. It’s good enough though.

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Practically every first team cricketer in these top schools is on some type of scholarship as well. Surprisingly few of them went from Form 1 through to Form 6 at those schools, they get poached from other schools. England have really ramped up their game at junior level. Obviously there’s lots of money there, but we can copy this at a fraction of the cost, but we need buy in from a few schools.

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Whitgift school, where Welch and Lock went to school have 1500 pupils paying £30k a year, that’s £45 million a year income before you get the endowments, Old Boys Association, and external scholarships from benefactors.
They have 2 level 4 coaches, and at least 3 level 3 coaches. Eastbourne, where Evans and Huchu went to school have nearly completed a £40 million 5 storey sports complex. It’s staggering what’s out there.
Millfield and Whitgift are possibly the best two cricketing schools. There are over 1000 feeder schools into the Surrey system, of which about 40 are really serious schools. They have an amazing scouting system as well. Any kid that has promise gets found and invited to play in district games and trials and if he’s exceptional he will get recommended for a County net. If he’s that good and the parents can’t afford fancy school fees he gets a scholarship. With all those numbers you’re going to get some sharp players. England should actually be unbeatable, but the average kid there is a lot more ordinary than ours. It’s bizarre that we can remotely compete against that, we’ve fallen behind, but we still produce Byrom’s Lakes and Welch’s, it’s a minor miracle actually.

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Yes kids in other countries really do go through some tough training . Our situation is unique. ZC should only really be taking care of the national guys admin and maybe coaching staff logistics and umpires. Our economy really has turned our game upside down. Clubs and franchises should be taking care of all their costs but sponsorship really only comes for the national team. I saw that this current test series has 14 sponsors but it will still make a loss.

The best we can do is maybe buy 1 of those machines for every province.

The trick is to get the schools to buy into the vision that cricket can provide a future for these kids. At the moment the govt schools are football mad and during my time at one of those private schools , rugby was the main event of the year. You got a lot of the guys cracking the u19 cricket team also representing the u19 craven week rugby team. I saw a lot of talented potential fast bowlers or power hitters picking rugby which in the end took them nowhere yet ZC is sitting on 94 million dollars. A lot of kids only realise this when its too late . We are very lucky we didn't lose Musakanda that way too

Maybe if the franchises and clubs took care of themselves ZC would have money to pump into the juniors. It's really sad when you have 22 guys waiting for ZC to provide them 2 cricket balls to get a game going at club level. It shows that a true passion for the game does not exist. Some West African friends of mine have told me that one of the biggest problems us Zimbabwean black guys have is that we are so passive and always waiting for things to be done for us. The older I get the more I realize there was some truth in that even though they upset me at the time.

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Googly wrote:
Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:40 am
Whitgift school, where Welch and Lock went to school have 1500 pupils paying £30k a year, that’s £45 million a year income before you get the endowments, Old Boys Association, and external scholarships from benefactors.
They have 2 level 4 coaches, and at least 3 level 3 coaches. Eastbourne, where Evans and Huchu went to school have nearly completed a £40 million 5 storey sports complex. It’s staggering what’s out there.
Millfield and Whitgift are possibly the best two cricketing schools. There are over 1000 feeder schools into the Surrey system, of which about 40 are really serious schools. They have an amazing scouting system as well. Any kid that has promise gets found and invited to play in district games and trials and if he’s exceptional he will get recommended for a County net. If he’s that good and the parents can’t afford fancy school fees he gets a scholarship. With all those numbers you’re going to get some sharp players. England should actually be unbeatable, but the average kid there is a lot more ordinary than ours. It’s bizarre that we can remotely compete against that, we’ve fallen behind, but we still produce Byrom’s Lakes and Welch’s, it’s a minor miracle actually.
True the gap between the top and bottom countries is ridiculous. Dont know why England still has so many guys have from other countries playing for them when they have such a well oiled system

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So out of 11000 First team schoolboys you end up with 12 Academy players who have professional aspirations. From that lot maybe 1 or 2 a year get a professional contract.
This year Surrey signed 4 young guys, three were/are England U19 as well, the 4th is a young South African fast bowler with a Brit passport. Next year there may only be one spot open at most, and then someone exceptional would have to come along to displace anyone. They are producing scores of disillusioned cricketers.
Basically you could pick at least 10 teams from Surrey schoolboys that would probably beat our u19’s.
It’s a scary prospect.

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