Player Ratings - 2nd Test vs West Indies

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Player Ratings - 2nd Test vs West Indies

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10
Moor - Not easy to be told you're facing Roach and Gabriel at that pace, and have to face the challenge of Bishoo and Chase on that wicket, as well as to deal with the discipline of Holder. Unfair to bat at 5 twice after first the number 3 and 4 flop badly, and a 2nd innings when the entire top 4 failed. Facing 400 balls under those conditions is something I doubt statistically many players have ever done, particularly when runs scored still total less than 100. I'd have to check the stats but they'll back up a 10/10 performance.

Hami - Set up the Test match. It wasn't the fact that he scored 147 runs. It was how he did it. He looked by far the best batsman on display from both sides over the 5 days. He was simply brilliant in that innings.

9
Raza - Unexpected returns with the ball. Was magnificent. WI played him very easily after he got his wickets which didn't undo his hard work though. Unlike Moor (as well as BT, Craig and Mire), he was fortunate on both occasions to not really face the seamers at their freshest and had enough time between then and the new ball to settle against the part-timers and WI change bowlers who were rather off the boil. He got MoM, arguably deserves the 10, but i's more a case of things falling into place for him rather than a 10 star performance.

6
Mpofu - Doesn't deserve another cap, but he bowled beautifully, and did deserve to get more than one wicket. Probably the only bowler from either side who never really had a poor spell.

5
Chakabva - Was poor behind the stumps. A reverse of the first Test, but apart from the howlers he kept good. Future leader and number 3 of this side. His batting for the A side has been assured and he's been crazily messed about the order. Stepped up this time around
Chisoro - His selection was a poisoned chalice. His captain had no clue how to use him despite overwhelming evidence available as to how. Could have bagged a few more wickets. Decent performance nonetheless. Doesn't deserve another cap ahead of other options.

4
Cremer - Got zero points for his captaincy, bowling and fielding for obvious reasons. With that in mind it could be argued 4 is actually too much. But his side was in trouble, and with the bat he ensured he was there until the end.

2
Mire - Was always a disaster to begin with. That is down to Taibu and Streak. One of the worst calls as far as selection and strategy for a long time. An investigation as to why he bowled such few overs is necessary. I don't know the full story and his fitness, but I'll put it down to insubordination and unprofessionalism.

1
Craig Ervine - Has never been a number 3 and will never be a number 3. If If he persists in that role his batting average will slide as fast as Holder and Dowrich sent Raza's bowling average back up again. Why he was so nervous is strange. Does he have a fear of genuine express pace? He could perhaps be a sign that this business of top ZIM batsmen batting so low renders them disadvantaged in their future careers when exposed to batting higher and against quality. Surely where he felt uncomfortable you probably expected to see a Chamu, Vusi, Mawoyo and maybe even Matsi coasting.
Taylor - His footwork hasn't been this bad in a long time. It has never been brilliant but it looks like it has gone backwards. back to when he was still a teenager. Few would believe you if you said he's spent the past couple of seasons playing County cricket. He's only 31, but already having the issues Kallis and Ponting had at the backend of their careers. He was tried and he failed in every position for Notts at County Cricket. Him doing well for them in List A but from a lower position not top order suggests that maybe Brendan needs to be more attacking and less circumspect in order to succeed. He had the luxury of Grant tending to him when in truth he didn't need him much, but now he does, desperately. ZIM won't be solving their opening problem soon, and Craig won't be solid enough at 3. Unless Taylor gets some help - and ZIM have no choice but to give it to him considering the financial investment in him - these will be very trying times for Brendan going forward.

0
Malcolm Waller - Hopeless and useless.

My team suggestions:
I doubt they'll be dropping plenty players. I just hope they don't suddenly believe Raza is a bowler they can trust, just like they did with Williams. Moor has nailed down his spot so Kasuza etc will have to wait. It's a question of where he must bat. He asked for Mawoyo's advice. Let him do so while they are together in the middle. Despite people's insistence that I'm crazy, Cremer really isn't a frontline spinner. They've tolerated Malcolm and Sean in the XI, surely he can come in as a number 8 plus operate strictly as a strike bowler in bursts. That is after all what he does in ODIs and T20s. Only bowls when he smells blood so to speak. As things stand he's probably the only Zimbabwean batsman who can and actually will improve. I want Raza to open but that won't happen. Jarvis was brought back to be a strike bowler. Based on what we saw, I don't think he'll be capable of fulfilling that role, nor putting in the shift Mpofu-type put in this Test. With his fitness Chatara will not be able to be a workhorse either but he's still a top wicket-taker. So is he's in the team then it's either as the primary strike bowler or not at all because as good as he is he's not elite good and will be negated and rendered a limping liability. ZIM cannot afford to have a seamer who will put in the hard yards but cannot bat. Right now Jarvis threatens to be the bowler who will pick up one more wicket than Tiripano but be a poorer batsman and lack his stamina. Mashinge is the perfect option.

As always I stand to be corrected, but this is Test cricket and it doesn't take much to get found out.

1Mawoyo, 2Moor, 3Hami, 4Craig, 5Taylor, 6Raza, 7Chakabva(wk), 8Cremer(c), 9Jarvis/Mashinge, 10Chatara, 11Wellington

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Re: Player Ratings - 2nd Test vs West Indies

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Player ratings very fair probably a bit generous to Hami & Moor but the rest very good

Dont agree with the team selection for RSA though
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I would love have Mawoyo back in the fold but is he match-fit these days?

My Test XI - not particularly happy with the openers, but with no Mire, Mawoyo, Sibanda, etc I am not really sure who to put up there. Toss-up between a W Masakadza and another pace bowler, depending on the conditions.

1. Peter Moor
2. Sikandar Raza
3. Hamilton Masakadza
4. Craig Ervine
5. Brendan Taylor
6. Sean Williams
7. Regis Chakabva (w)
8. Graeme Cremer (c)
9. Kyle Jarvis
10. Tendai Chatara
11. Wellington Masakadza
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Agree with most of those ratings although Taylor did get 73 in the 1st Test so probably deserves a 2 or 3 rating.

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I believe these ratings are just for the second test.
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Re: Player Ratings - 2nd Test vs West Indies

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Fair ratings, although I would group Moor, Hamilton and Raza all at 9. Didn't watch much of Mpofu's bowling, so can't comment on whether he should be above Regis in ratings, may be on par.

Not sure what the fitness issues of Mire were, did not get to watch much of him in action. And yes, footwork (lack of it) of Taylor and Ervine look scary. Hope they pick it up quickly (could even be a confidence thing, one decent knock under the belt and the feet might start moving better).

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eugene wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:25 am
I believe these ratings are just for the second test.
Yep. My apologies.

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Mpofu & Waller, both should be zero. Waller getting 0 for his batting similarly Mpofu have got just 1 wicket in 2 test.

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Mpofu, Solmon Mire deserve Zero. Chakabva deserve 1, with worst keeping, one fifty doesn't means, he deserve more, game was already shifting towards draw.
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Not since Brendan Taylor fell short of a ton against a top shelf SA attack has a ZIM batsman looked so dominant against pace.

You;d have to go back several years back and still you won't find that many dominant ZIM batsmen in Tests against a good pace attack.

Grant and Andy have done well against such attacks, but in truth it wasn't dominant and assured.

Hami played Murray Goodwin type innings. Goodwin tamed Akhtar and Waqar (and Wasim?) plus dealt with Saqlain. I think that was the last ever jaw dropping batting performance by a Zimbabwean.

Just as Hami made it look like he was the only batsman capable of batting on that pitch and made it look simple, it was the same with Goodwin then.

Roach and Gabriel not in the same class, but conditions were as tough for them as they were for those Pakistan quicks even then. The pitch aided the spinners even more in the first innings so he faced a super-charged Bishoo too.

Hami's ton is a 10/10 for me.

EDIT: Goodwin has actually tamed Walsh+Ambrose, McGrath+Fleming+Warne, Gough+Caddick+Flintoff. Wasim isn't part of the group I mention above, but Waqar+Akhtar+Saqlain is still the toughest attack he's tamed quite comfortably i.e. assured and controlled front-foot play.
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