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If you want to read as much negativity as you read during Steven Price days, read this: http://www.espn.com/cricket/story/_/id/ ... icket-home

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Years of financial mismanagement from Bvute, Chingoka, etc along with ZANU-PF destroying the economy have left us in this situation. What happens if we miss out on CWC qualification?
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Really sad to read this. Takes away the positivity of the last few days.

Tests are the pinnacle. Bollocks to the cost.

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Yeah there is only so much of the rot the two "Pakistanis" could stop after 20 years of Mugabe's yes men stealing.

Hhm is going to lay all the blame on Hasnain and Shariff while his comrades stole and wasted 10 million dollars a year for 20 years and ask why the Pakistanis didnt donate 200 million from their own pockets to fix ZANU's mess.

Terrible news especially now that ZIM was finally at full strength.

But excited to hear ZIM is scheduled to tour BD for 3 Tests in 14 months time.
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Trying to sort out bvute mess. But some on here will laugh at the suggestion. They robbed us blind wether hhm believe us or not. Robbing bastards send em on there way, and ICC charge them for the bill please 👍

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Well I think we have played 7 tests in the last 18 months and this schedule shows 9 tests in the next 18 months. . don't really know what the big fuss is about. and we will host 2 just like we did this year.

The hard truth is that test cricket is too expensive to host for most nations not just Zim. another key issue is that unlike other countries ZC sponsors everything all the way down to club cricket because of the economic situation. a million dollars for 2 weeks of cricket is not sustainable in our situation. this is obviously why salaries were not paid in full. so when you see countries wanting 4 day test cricket you have to understand that if we had played two 4 day tests we probably would have saved around 200 thousand which could have covered most of the wage bill. We have to be realistic in the end. I think 5 day cricket will die after the first cycle of the test league.sad but true

In the long run maybe people were right about investing in Byrom instead of the likes of Taylor. it would have cost us half of the money these guys got..especially if we miss the world cup. there is a lot of pressure on these guys to perform.

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NO more pressure than any of the other players. If it all goes tits up, Jarvis and Taylor will be the only cricketers that did ok out of the mess, that’s not pressure, that’s a comfort zone.
I’m sorry but whilst I continue to largely blame the administration, the players have had many opportunities to form a meaningful Union that could have played a hand in appointing the right people to sail our ship. We have such a small player pool that you cannot replace the top guys, they have the power to change everything, but they’re too selfish and stupid and no three players can pull in the same direction. Last month everyone was proclaiming our cricket had turned the corner and now everyone is back to doom and gloom. A dozen good people could run our cricket though all the age groups. How many incompetent people are in ZC? There’s your problem right there and it will never change. At the end of the day the players have only themselves to blame.

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I dont think 5 day cricket will die so quickly. Asian countries cant play more th 100 overs a day as our days arent long enough near the equator. I dont the Windies can either. Besides the major boards seem intent on 5 days, and the smaller ones will be able to use India tours and world cup revenues to continue funding test cricket. I think boards like NZ and WI will just stop playing 3 test per series unless its against the Big 3.
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Googly is right, the players have had many opportunities to form a decent players-union, but they have always been beset with internal disagreements and ZC snitches like Utseya.
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eugene wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:19 pm
Googly is right, the players have had many opportunities to form a decent players-union, but they have always been beset with internal disagreements and ZC snitches like Utseya.
I disagree. What are the players going to do? At the end of the day, the Hamiltons need the ZC's late paychecks and can only do as they are told. If they hold out indefinitely, yes ZC would collapse, but remember they have 10 million in the bank whereas a Raza might only have 10 grand, if that. Aussie players had way more leverage with CA because they are not dependent on CA. They have the IPL, CPL, Natwest and can still make more than what the CA would pay them. Only 5 or 6 of the ZIM players have the BPL to fall back on (Jarvis and Taylor would just go back to the counties), but the BPL isn't enough money to raise a family on.

At the end of the day, if Test cricket dies in Zimbabwe, its because it was never sustainable givin the demographic and economic trends in the country. Teams like the Windies, SL, and NZ will just scrape by via cutting their Test committments to the minimum of 2 Tests per series, and piggy backing off the Big 3, plus World Cup revenues. PAK and BD will thrive relatively speaking on the size of their operation (huge fanbase, large economies, PSL/BPL) and the Big 3 will of course be swimming in cash regardless.

Not sure what SA's long term prospects are.
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