Did a little bit of reading and apparently he’s a supporter of the white farmer plight.
That can only be good news for both Zimbabwe the country and cricket.
He has western interest contrary to what people believe. I have a friend who works at the British Council who has been telling me for over a year now that all the western embassies wanted him to take over. he has given speeches at white farmer gatherings in the recent past. also has strong Chinese links.. military links. like it or not he will probably take over
Mugabe is well known to be a cricket fan.
Anyone know whether Mnangagwa is? All I can find about it is that he met with the ICC chairman a few months ago - but that was probably just a photo op rather than any indication that he's a fan of Masakadza's booming cover drive.
I wish all of you the best & hope you remain safe.
For all the harsh words & difference of opinion in this forum, we are only commenting on a game. Albeit, a game that, at its best, showcases the greatness of the human condition.
+1. Can't agree more.
Here's wishing safety for everyone in Zim and the courage to come through this turmoil.
Yes, best wishes for all forumites on the ground and all the people of Zimbabwe.
Zimbabweans never really had a genuine reason to revolt in their masses before.
This one sentence is the only thing worth reading in your entire diatribe, why is it worth reading? because it shows what a know nothing idiot you are. Mugabe has treated every decent Zimbabwean, regardless of colour or race, like the dog shit on his shoes for years, hopefully that shit will be wiped all over his greedy, thieving face, with some left over for his bitch of course
Good luck to all Zimbabweans in building a fair, decent and successful country in the near future
don't think cricket will suffer at all. the fact that the Logan Cup went ahead right next to the state house( even though he leant live there anymore) is a sign things are under control.
maybe the only issue we might have is that it looks like the sports minister who has been very supportive and accommodating to our cause, has been caught on the wrong side of history here and rumours are he has been detained.
Some reports say Zuma sent two special envoys to ZIM, but the army blocked entry. He was acting as SADC.
He must still act as SA head, but at least he spoke to Mugabe who personally confirmed to him that he was under house arrest.
If you guys think SA, Russia and China just will sit by and watch quietly then you're mistaken.
This is engineered by the West not an internal action.
Mnangagwa briefly went to exile remember, and he was garnering support and guarantees from the West.
You guys know disappointingly little. Mnangagwa is the one who split ZANU. Read about the Tsholotsho declaration Mnangagwa's conspiracy 14 years ago. Later Mujuru whom the Tsholotsho declaration was designed to sideline, also turned against Mugabe's kindness on her behalf which partly instigate the whole thing. (Also possible Mnangagwa and Chiwenga killed he husband because Mugabe had zero to gain ad no motive in doing so).
The reality is that both Mnangagwa and Mujuru should have been political lepers many years ago. Mugabe nursed them to acceptance. Any power sharing agreement will involve them and MDC, further proving Western influence, because the army rejected MDC long ago. What kind o leadership can have both Mnangagwa and Mujuru without hurting Zimbabwe badly?
The army acting now is not out of concern for Zimbabwe but the heads have been paid handsomely to effect this.
The West is gambling that Ramaphosa wins. They acted prematurely because intelligence hadn't revealed to them that a key province ditched him. So now his chances are very slim. Hence the "peaceful" approach so far. They are in a corner. SA hold all the cards igry don't control tur politics here.
The bluff will fail badly.
If the army thinks Grace Mugabe does not deserve power then let her be defeated politically. Party memebrrs are "smart enough" to vote against her right? Why does the at insist on a coup instead of insisting on overseeing internal ZANU elections instead of Zimbabwe Electoral Commission? What are they afraid of? Democracy under their guidance?
Some reports say Zuma sent two special envoys to ZIM, but the army blocked entry. He was acting as SADC.
He must still act as SA head, but at least he spoke to Mugabe who personally confirmed to him that he was under house arrest.
If you guys think SA, Russia and China just will sit by and watch quietly then you're mistaken.
This is engineered by the West not an internal action.
Mnangagwa briefly went to exile remember, and he was garnering support and guarantees from the West.
You guys know disappointingly little. Mnangagwa is the one who split ZANU. Read about the Tsholotsho declaration Mnangagwa's conspiracy 14 years ago. Later Mujuru whom the Tsholotsho declaration was designed to sideline, also turned against Mugabe's kindness on her behalf which partly instigate the whole thing. (Also possible Mnangagwa and Chiwenga killed he husband because Mugabe had zero to gain ad no motive in doing so).
The reality is that both Mnangagwa and Mujuru should have been political lepers many years ago. Mugabe nursed them to acceptance. Any power sharing agreement will involve them and MDC, further proving Western influence, because the army rejected MDC long ago. What kind o leadership can have both Mnangagwa and Mujuru without hurting Zimbabwe badly?
The army acting now is not out of concern for Zimbabwe but the heads have been paid handsomely to effect this.
The West is gambling that Ramaphosa wins. They acted prematurely because intelligence hadn't revealed to them that a key province ditched him. So now his chances are very slim. Hence the "peaceful" approach so far. They are in a corner. SA hold all the cards igry don't control tur politics here.
The bluff will fail badly.
If the army thinks Grace Mugabe does not deserve power then let her be defeated politically. Party memebrrs are "smart enough" to vote against her right? Why does the at insist on a coup instead of insisting on overseeing internal ZANU elections instead of Zimbabwe Electoral Commission? What are they afraid of? Democracy under their guidance?
China isn't standing idly by, they are the ones endorsing this military action. Mnangagwa was just in China recently in fact.
Neil Johnson, Alistair Campbell, Murray Goodwin, Andy Flower (w), Grant Flower, Dave Houghton, Guy Whittall, Heath Streak (c), Andy Blignaut, Ray Price, Eddo Brandes
hhm, Zimbabwe's GDP is worse than basket cases like Honduras. Change had to happen at some point.
Don't dignify a coup by calling it "change". No African country taken over in this fashion has ever recovered!
Things will only get worse an that's the last thing we want on our doorstep. I don't know if Zimbabweans realise that they'll soon graduate into Congolese (DRC), Mozambicans and Somalis if this persists.
China isn't standing idly by, they are the ones endorsing this military action. Mnangagwa was just in China recently in fact.
Old news. Even former Finance Minister Chinamasa experienced sane from both West and China but got nothing.
Trump also got plenty concessions from China and was recently flirting with them wasn't he? So?
Only thing you need to know is that this is West backed not CHI/RUS backed. Just study Botswana's relationship with those two countries to see if that's what they want.
Besides, you're being very naïve in your arguments.
China isn't standing idly by, they are the ones endorsing this military action. Mnangagwa was just in China recently in fact.
Old news. Even former Finance Minister Chinamasa experienced sane from both West and China but got nothing.
Trump also got plenty concessions from China and was recently flirting with them wasn't he? So?
Only thing you need to know is that this is West backed not CHI/RUS backed. Just study Botswana's relationship with those two countries to see if that's what they want.
Besides, you're being very naïve in your arguments.
No, China is endorsing and supporting this coup, Chiwenga was just in China last week.
Neil Johnson, Alistair Campbell, Murray Goodwin, Andy Flower (w), Grant Flower, Dave Houghton, Guy Whittall, Heath Streak (c), Andy Blignaut, Ray Price, Eddo Brandes
