Positives & Negetives of the Tri Nation T20 Series ( Aus, Zim, Pak ) & 5 match odi series ( Zim Vs Pak )

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Re: Positives & Negetives of the Tri Nation T20 Series ( Aus, Zim, Pak ) & 5 match odi series ( Zim Vs Pak )

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Tried to stay away, couldn't hack it, i love you all too much..

Posatives:
In Ryan Murray we've found a genuine wicket keeper batsman who looks reliable in the middle order. For a kid of 20, with hardly any FC or list A cricket, to come in an negotiate 32 and 47 in his debut series, against the best attack in the world, speaks volumes. He's been a massive shining light in this series and it'd be a great shame if he wasn't available going forward.

Moor has shown that he can hack it at this level, without a doubt. The talent is there, he's just very tentative up front but when he really commits to his shots, is there anybody who times it better in the side? That's a genuine question, is therew anybody who can time the ball as effortlessly as Moor? I'd have him higher up to give him as much time as possible to get settled. Still has problems with his footwork but in terms of hand eye co-ordination i think he's got it.

Muzarabani looks the real deal, and although he didn't take the wickets he deserved, he's shown that he's our strike bowler bowling forward.

Liam Roche looks like he's got some talent but is miles off this level of cricket, but where does he acclimatise? FC cricket in the country has all but stopped and club cricket is a distant memory. Not sure what to suggest, but he looks good with the ball and can clearly bat. Needs to bowl quicker.

Musakanda has all the talent in the world, but needs to engage brain. Nice guy and is passionate about playing cricket, but he'll need to be careful not to fall into the vusi catagory. Miles away from that, though.

Prince Masvaure very pleasantly surprised me yesterday with how easy he made it look. Take this guy to Bangladesh, he made the spinners look very average.

Tinashe K-long has some balls up front, something which can't be said for Chibahba. Has very hard hands and looks to play anything short towards the off side, and very much becomes chest on when facing the bowler. The six he smoked back down the ground doesn't indicate a guy with no ability, nor does the two punches through the off side off hasan Ali, but he has some flaws. Again, lots to work with and was refreshing to see somebody taking the attack to the bowlers up front.

Negatives:

Chari, Chibahba, Chigumbura, bye bye gents. Not good enough for this level.

The negatives are too long winded, but there was plenty in abundance.

This series has shown the world how far we have fallen, and even with the main lads coming back (if), we have two or three more years max to play with.

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Re: Positives & Negetives of the Tri Nation T20 Series ( Aus, Zim, Pak ) & 5 match odi series ( Zim Vs Pak )

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You guys need to improve your bowling by a great deal. Even with Jarvis coming back from injury and assuming things get sorted out between players and board then Cremer will be back.. but those two aren't making much of a difference. May be you will chase 330 instead of 370. Muzrabani is good, need to unearth better bowlers or groom the current youngsters.

Batting should be OK if the senior guys come, but even then it's time for Zimbabwe to look beyond Ervine and Williams.. Kamunhukamwe, Murray, Moor, Musvaure, they are the future. Invest in them.

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Ervine and Williams, if available, are two of the first names on the sheet when it comes to batting. Period.
You move on from Chibahba, Chigumbura, Nyumbu permanently first and foremost, not these two. They still have a lot to offer Zimbabwean cricket.
To suggest they not be included is stupid


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brmtaylor.com admin wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:50 am
Cremer is the most important one. He can actually take wickets...
Bowling wise yes, he's our best bowler and one true world class bowler at that. But in terms of batting, it's beyond stupid to discard Ervine and Williams after the slaughter we've just seen. Murray, K-long, Roche, Mavuta, Masvaure and co should be persisted with, I agree, but not at the expense of experience.

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Re: Positives & Negetives of the Tri Nation T20 Series ( Aus, Zim, Pak ) & 5 match odi series ( Zim Vs Pak )

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sloandog wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:07 pm
brmtaylor.com admin wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:50 am
Cremer is the most important one. He can actually take wickets...
Bowling wise yes, he's our best bowler and one true world class bowler at that. But in terms of batting, it's beyond stupid to discard Ervine and Williams after the slaughter we've just seen. Murray, K-long, Roche, Mavuta, Masvaure and co should be persisted with, I agree, but not at the expense of experience.
No body becomes a world beater from day 1. I'm not saying you discard Ervine and Williams right away (if available) but those two have been around for very long time and what are the results? Losing to Bangladesh, losing to Afghanistan, losing out on WC spot, failure to qualify into main draw of WT20 even once.

My point is Zimbabwe should identify youngsters who given they spend 4-5 years in international set up should be able to provide better results. Like in the past you guys had several such players. It's time you think in that direction, Ervine, Williams, Mazakadza should they be in the plans for WT20 2020 or Next WC Qualifiers? If not start the succession plan.

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That’s why we need an A side initiative. If money is tight, which it is, then we need to cut back immediately to a 2 or 3 team franchise set up. You can’t have a bogus FC system made up of club cricketers. You’re better off even with a 2 side system and using the money to play more A games with our best up and coming guys. Here’s the sad fact- we don’t have 11 A standard players, they will have to include older players with international caps or we’ll get dry humped there as well.
We’re fooling ourselves if we think we’ve got 50 players of a FC standard here. By cutting back you’re now releasing 30 guys into club cricket that thought they were too special to play. Watch that suddenly get very competitive because they’re now competing to get noticed for FC. Suddenly if there isn’t a free match ball, free lunch, or the pitch isn’t prepared you’ll see those boys cutting, mowing, rolling and driving to the shops to buy a ball and make sure they’ve got umpires. Or they will just continue sitting in the shade and wondering why they aren’t being spoon fed, that’s also a possibility.

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Re: Positives & Negetives of the Tri Nation T20 Series ( Aus, Zim, Pak ) & 5 match odi series ( Zim Vs Pak )

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Googly wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:04 pm
That’s why we need an A side initiative. If money is tight, which it is, then we need to cut back immediately to a 2 or 3 team franchise set up. You can’t have a bogus FC system made up of club cricketers. You’re better off even with a 2 side system and using the money to play more A games with our best up and coming guys. Here’s the sad fact- we don’t have 11 A standard players, they will have to include older players with international caps or we’ll get dry humped there as well.
We’re fooling ourselves if we think we’ve got 50 players of a FC standard here. By cutting back you’re now releasing 30 guys into club cricket that thought they were too special to play. Watch that suddenly get very competitive because they’re now competing to get noticed for FC. Suddenly if there isn’t a free match ball, free lunch, or the pitch isn’t prepared you’ll see those boys cutting, mowing, rolling and driving to the shops to buy a ball and make sure they’ve got umpires. Or they will just continue sitting in the shade and wondering why they aren’t being spoon fed, that’s also a possibility.
I’m glad you are saying it because I think I’ve spent at least 50 posts over the last 6 years saying exactly this point.
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Re: Positives & Negetives of the Tri Nation T20 Series ( Aus, Zim, Pak ) & 5 match odi series ( Zim Vs Pak )

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Decent, line length bowlers have been smashed apart in the recent series

Which uncapped fast bowler has got the " killing effect ", can take wickets, can trouble the opponent, can blow away batting order ?

Honest Ziwira

Mkhululi Nyathi

Tendai Nyamayaro

William Mashinge

Kundai Matigimu

Sydney Murombo

Robert Chimhinya

Jonathan Connolly

Kieran Robinson

Dean Mazhawidza

E Masuku

VM Nyauchi

Tafara Chingwara

Thabo Mboyi

Cuthbert Musoko

C Chitumba

Tanyaradzwa Munyaradzi

B Zhawi

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Re: Positives & Negetives of the Tri Nation T20 Series ( Aus, Zim, Pak ) & 5 match odi series ( Zim Vs Pak )

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Kieran Robinson? He bowls 65mph away drifters, on a good day..

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