Squad X1
Grant Flower
S Mire
Andy Flower wk
Murray Godwin
Neil Johnson
Raza
Guy Whittall
Sean Williams
Heath Streak
Chigumbura
Dirk Viljoen
Best All Rounder Squad Zimbabwe
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Grant Flower
Andy Blignaut
Andy Flower wk
Neil Johnson
Sean Ervine
Guy Whittall
Bryan Strang
Heath Streak
Paul Strang
Dirk Viljoen
Grant Flower
Andy Blignaut
Andy Flower wk
Neil Johnson
Sean Ervine
Guy Whittall
Bryan Strang
Heath Streak
Paul Strang
Dirk Viljoen
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How is Goodwin an all rounder?
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Chigumbura? You're having a laugh mate.
Sean Ervine, Paul Strang, Doug Marillier, Travis Friend, possibly even Duncan Fletcher would be ahead of him and Mire by a long way.
Sean Ervine, Paul Strang, Doug Marillier, Travis Friend, possibly even Duncan Fletcher would be ahead of him and Mire by a long way.
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Grant Flower
Neil Johnson
Sean Ervine
Tatenda Taibu wk
Sean Williams
Sikander Raza
Guy Whittal
Elton Chigumbura
Heath Streak
Andy Blignaut
Graeme Cremer
Travis Friend 12th man
Neil Johnson
Sean Ervine
Tatenda Taibu wk
Sean Williams
Sikander Raza
Guy Whittal
Elton Chigumbura
Heath Streak
Andy Blignaut
Graeme Cremer
Travis Friend 12th man
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Chigumbura has over 100 wickets in ODI's & over 4000 runs , if that's not an rounder , what is ...
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By definition, yes he is an all rounder, but I'm assuming the point was not to name 11 all rounders, rather the best 11. Chigs stats should be much better considering the level of opposition he often played and the number of games he played. He also gave up bowling a while ago, essentially losing the all rounder tag.
I just feel there are many better players who deserve to be in the best 11 AR ahead of him. Ervine is the first name off the top of my head.
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Ervine yes but no way is Mire a better all rounder than prime Elton. Mire bowled for a few months then stopped.zimbos_05 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:10 pmBy definition, yes he is an all rounder, but I'm assuming the point was not to name 11 all rounders, rather the best 11. Chigs stats should be much better considering the level of opposition he often played and the number of games he played. He also gave up bowling a while ago, essentially losing the all rounder tag.
I just feel there are many better players who deserve to be in the best 11 AR ahead of him. Ervine is the first name off the top of my head.
Doug Marrilier averaged 18 with the bat and over 40(same as Elton) with the ball in ODIs. Paul Strang was more of a bowler with his highest score being 47 in over 90 games. Travis Friend averaged 48 with the bowl in ODIs,16 with the bat.
Now Elton might be finished now but he did a lot for his country at his peak. People are very quick to forget. 16th best ODI average for Zim, 6th on the runs list and 7th on the wickets list
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I agree TapsC, with an average of 25 I'd say his record is respectable.
The risk is that he keeps playing, keeps under-performing and it drops to 24, 23 etc and then his career stats will just show an unfulfilled talent like Sibanda or Chibhabha.
The risk is that he keeps playing, keeps under-performing and it drops to 24, 23 etc and then his career stats will just show an unfulfilled talent like Sibanda or Chibhabha.
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TapsC wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:05 pm
Ervine yes but no way is Mire a better all rounder than prime Elton. Mire bowled for a few months then stopped.
Doug Marrilier averaged 18 with the bat and over 40(same as Elton) with the ball in ODIs. Paul Strang was more of a bowler with his highest score being 47 in over 90 games. Travis Friend averaged 48 with the bowl in ODIs,16 with the bat.
Now Elton might be finished now but he did a lot for his country at his peak. People are very quick to forget. 16th best ODI average for Zim, 6th on the runs list and 7th on the wickets list
I never said Mire is better than Elton.
Marillier and Friend were playing in a time when they were competing for a spot against some quality players. They also played quality opposition. Can't forget the game Marillier won for us against India. A player of Chigs hype should have much better stats, especially as he was always a shoe in, and played opposition that was of a lower calibre more often.
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