[Match Thread] Bangladesh vs Zimbabwe, 2nd Test, Dhaka

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Re: [Match Thread] Bangladesh vs Zimbabwe, 2nd Test, Dhaka

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Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:06 am
If you play shots like the one Taylor got out to you’re just opening up more chances for losing your wicket. Which is usually unnecessary in a test match but especially when you’re trying to save a game and there’s no possibility of a win. 110 off 400 would have been a lot more valuable than 110 off 194 but obviously not as entertaining.
The ZIM batsman are all compulsive sweepers. Just like Vusi and pulling. Hamilton, Raza, Williams, and Taylor are all equally culpable. And the number of times they get out playing the various varieties of sweeps (conventional paddle, slog, and reverse) + the number of chances they provide indicates to me that none of them play the shot very well. If you get 10 boundaries from sweeps, but offer 3 chances and twice get hit on the pads close to the stumps...thats not playing the sweep well.

Just look at Mushfiq as an example. The guy plays the sweep shot as well as anyone in world cricket because he plays it naturally, rarely premeditatedly. First 200 balls faced, hardly swept the ball, and if he did it was on merit. And he didn't try to be cute and reverse sweep it. Towards the end of his innings he started premeditating, tried a reverse sweep which was uppish, and generally looked foolish. But by that time he was already on 190 odd and had faced 400 plus deliveries.
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Re: [Match Thread] Bangladesh vs Zimbabwe, 2nd Test, Dhaka

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brmtaylor.com admin wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:06 am
If you play shots like the one Taylor got out to you’re just opening up more chances for losing your wicket. Which is usually unnecessary in a test match but especially when you’re trying to save a game and there’s no possibility of a win. 110 off 400 would have been a lot more valuable than 110 off 194 but obviously not as entertaining.
It was just poor shot selection from Taylor. The ball was there to be hit in that area, but maybe not with the fielder there. Watching the highlights, a lot of our wickets were from very poor shot selection and decision making. Can't really blame Taylor though. Him and Moor are the only ones who scored well and that would vindicate their approach. At the end of the day, they approached the game better than the others. Played their shots and never retreated in to their shell and it was the approach to take. Side not, Moor needs to be an opener.
Kriterion_BD wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:19 am

Playing your shots also forces the opposition to go on the defensive and remove those pesky bat-pad fielders and slips.
Kriterion_BD wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:25 am


The ZIM batsman are all compulsive sweepers. Just like Vusi and pulling. Hamilton, Raza, Williams, and Taylor are all equally culpable. And the number of times they get out playing the various varieties of sweeps (conventional paddle, slog, and reverse) + the number of chances they provide indicates to me that none of them play the shot very well. If you get 10 boundaries from sweeps, but offer 3 chances and twice get hit on the pads close to the stumps...thats not playing the sweep well.

Just look at Mushfiq as an example. The guy plays the sweep shot as well as anyone in world cricket because he plays it naturally, rarely premeditatedly. First 200 balls faced, hardly swept the ball, and if he did it was on merit. And he didn't try to be cute and reverse sweep it. Towards the end of his innings he started premeditating, tried a reverse sweep which was uppish, and generally looked foolish. But by that time he was already on 190 odd and had faced 400 plus deliveries.
Agree with both statements. Playing your shots pushes the field out. I've also said that Zim are not good proponents of the sweep. We like to use it, but we are not very effective with it. We could definitely cut down on it. The straight bat is still the best way to play cricket and for a side who is struggling and so low down the order in terms of world cricket, using a straight bat is a far better idea than being fancy.

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Re: [Match Thread] Bangladesh vs Zimbabwe, 2nd Test, Dhaka

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Chakabva, the useless passenger should bat at 3, so that he cant complain batting with the tail, destroyed Zimbabwe in 2 test through his worst keeping, when the team was dominating the opponent.Mutumbami didn't have pblm with the gloves, but Chakabva simply good for nothing, can't bat, can't keep.
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Richmond missed stacks of stumpings as well as catches. His batting in tests has not approached Chakabva's.

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Re: [Match Thread] Bangladesh vs Zimbabwe, 2nd Test, Dhaka

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Jemisi wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:16 am
Richmond missed stacks of stumpings as well as catches. His batting in tests has not approached Chakabva's.
Chakabva's batting is not better then Richamond, both falls in same category.....a quota player
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Re: [Match Thread] Bangladesh vs Zimbabwe, 2nd Test, Dhaka

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No follow on

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Re: [Match Thread] Bangladesh vs Zimbabwe, 2nd Test, Dhaka

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Kriterion_BD wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:38 pm
Googly wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:55 pm
The other reason why I think they will make us bat is the mental aspect of it. That’s a lot of scoreboard pressure knowing they’re 200 ahead and looking at rolling you for an innings defeat. It’s intriguing. I wonder if you can bet on this?
Additional reason for NOT enforcing the f/o...Tamim doubtful for WI series, so BD will want as much batting practice as they can especially after 8 consecutive sub-200 run scores debacle.
Wanted to ask you more about your flat wicket theory Kriterion. You said that the difference between Taijul amd Raza can be seen on a flat pitch. So using your theory can we also say that the difference between Jarvis and the Fizz was also seen on a flat wicket? You can also hear the Bangladeshi commentators constantly referring to Jarvis when they are talking about how fast bowlers should be bowling there, not the Fizz

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Re: [Match Thread] Bangladesh vs Zimbabwe, 2nd Test, Dhaka

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Flat Wicket theory is simple, 50% of the game depend on toss and pile up a mamoth total, and in bowling only those bowlers will get success who are accurate, stump to stump, specially the spinners....flat pitch is not suitable for part timers like Raza, Williams or a new commer like Mavuta, who are least accurate as they bowl boundary bowls in every overs.
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Re: [Match Thread] Bangladesh vs Zimbabwe, 2nd Test, Dhaka

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It seems they have not enforced the follow on...Interesting

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Re: [Match Thread] Bangladesh vs Zimbabwe, 2nd Test, Dhaka

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Tough for Zimbabwe
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