UAE & Afghanistan tour of Zimbabwe 2019 : Pre Series Discussion

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jaybro wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:34 am
A couple of points you’re probably not aware of TapsC

The Afghanistan tour of Ireland last year was televised in Australia (Foxsports)

The Hong Kong T20 was also televised in Australia (Foxsports)

If Ireland can sell their ODI series against Afghanistan to Australia why can’t Zimbabwe?
To be fair, last year's Pakistan ODI tour of Zimbabwe was also on Fox Sports Australia.
TapsC wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:36 pm
We dont have the money to pay for TV clearly. This is an unscheduled tour which is not part of the FTP. The August tour will be on TV. If Afghanistan wanted the broadcast so bad why didnt they pay for and they keep all the revenue from it? Most of the people who would watch it would be Afghanistan fans anyway.
Isn't this what they did before? If I recall, the last Afghan tour of Zimbabwe in 2017 was only broadcast to Afghanistan and the rest of us had to rely on Afghan streams. Surely that was paid for by ACB not ZC?

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ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:31 am
I just think that Afghanistan are forgetting who are their friends and who helped them become the poeerctehy have achieved in an impressive amount of time.

15 years ago these guys were nothing. Let us not forget that. They have ascended at the most unbelievable pace and that is impressive, but they did it with our help, and the last I remember when they played Australia they got belted when Aus put on nearly 400. So they think hey are mad but they are not. My advice is don’t forget your friends.
They don't care who helped them get to where they are, they only care about where they are. They have playing playing in top T20 leagues. They qualified for the WC at our expense. They are able to pay their players and arrange tours. They really don't care that Zim helped them out at one stage because quite frankly, the quicker we die, the better for them.
Mr Twig wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:24 am

To be fair, last year's Pakistan ODI tour of Zimbabwe was also on Fox Sports Australia.
That had more to do with the fact that it was part of a package with the tri-series with Aus. In saying that and to be fair, they did also broadcast our tour to SA (which was horrible to watch) but from what I know that had nothing to do with ZC but more to do with external factors. ZC have nothing going for them.

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Yes as Zimbo_05 said it was only shown on Fox here because it was Australia was involved.

The only times we see Zimbabwe here in Australia on Fox are

- World Cups (Qualifiers last year also)

- South Africa hosting Zimbabwe

- When Australia tour Zimbabwe

- New Zealand hosting Zimbabwe

You would also presume if Zimbabwe toured India or England we would also see it.

See even when Zimbabwe host a big side like India or Pakistan ZC fails to take advantage and sell the games to Fox, there are plenty of Indians & Pakistanis in Australia who would have Foxsports.

They could definitely be doing more no question
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In India almost all the series played in Zimbabwe are broadcast. I think only the last time when Zim played Afg in 5 match bilateral it was not broadcast.

In India almost every cricket series. No matter where in the world, as long as it involves test playing nations, it is certainly broadcast.

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https://www.sundaymail.co.zw/uae-heartbreak-revisited
Brighton Zhawi
Sports Reporter

YESTERDAY is not ours to recover, but tomorrow is ours to win or lose.”

Never has an adage rung so true, as Zimbabwe Cricket readies to mark the first anniversary of one of the darkest hours in the country’s history.

March 22, 2018 was the day the United Arab Emirates beat the Chevrons by three-runs, under the Duckworth Lewis, in the very last match of last year’s ICC Cricket World Cup qualifying Tournament.

Not only was the loss an embarrassment as it was on home soil, and one that no one saw coming, but Zimbabwe’s hopes of qualifying for this year’s world cup, in England and Wales, all but vanished.

In a cruel twist of fate; ZC, and the nation at large, will soon be called upon to put on their best suits and fake smiles and welcome the authors of that very heartbreak.

The UAE are expected to make yet another pit-stop here; for a four-match ODI series against the Chevrons, slated for April 7-13 in Harare.

And as talk about that fateful day continues; there have been a number of ‘what ifs’, scenarios floating around.

For the superstitious ones the bad omen probably started on team selection going on to the toss, before the rain delay, or maybe the batting line up.

What if Cremer had stuck his guns and gone with the bat first plan that had served the Chevrons well throughout the tournament?

In all matches Graeme Cremer won the toss from the group stages to the super six phase, and elected to bat first.

Through this game plan, Zimbabwe found success in all their matches, bringing them to the brink of qualification up until they ran into the West Indies and UAE.

In the make-or-break tie; Zimbabwe elected to bowl first because there was a forecast of showers later in that day.

Prior to that, and maybe most importantly, what if the team had not changed?

Big-hitting Cephas Zhuwao was replaced by PJ Moor who was playing his first match of the tournament.

Left arm orthodox spinner Tendai Chisoro was replaced by Tendai Chatara.

There was an argument Zhuwao deserved another chance in the line-up, given his track record against minnows.

What if Raza didn’t drop that catch, or him and Sean Williams did not fall so easily during the run chase?

In the 47th over with the rain getting heavier at Harare Sports Club, gun-fielder Sikandar Raza dropped a Mohammed Naved skier with UAE on 225-7.

Four balls later the covers were brought on as rain intensified, before the match resumed two hours later with Zimbabwe needing a Duckworth Lewis revised target of 230 in 40 overs.

It could have been lower if UAE had lost an eight wicket.

We can wish and wish that maybe what if the Harare Sports Club security didn’t turn back supporters since the ground was full to capacity, maybe more decibels would have inspired a heroic finish.

But like the quotation goes, “Yesterday is not ours to recover, but tomorrow is ours to win or lose.”

UAE are coming back and it is now up to the Chevrons to win and atone for the loss.

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Nothing went right at all for Zimbabwe that day
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There are not enough "non-black" cricketers left in the country for you to "give it back" to them. You cant even put together a white playing 11 in the system right now. Also as much as I dont like the board the truth is we cant blame them for not making the world cup. We all saw that game. We all saw what happened.
Such black entitlement :lol: There's 11 white and asian guys here in Harare that half pissed could beat the Chevrons .
There's 11 white and asian guys 16-24 around the country and world that could beat the Chevrons...they aren't in the system because they are not wanted by the Board because of their colour.

Read the Timveous piece it details a downward spiral from 2004 culminating in the UAE game....it's not the players fault at that particular time it's the players that should have been their and their experience that should have been there.
That downward spiral continues and will end in complete humiliation for our country because of a greedy few......but that's what Zanu has done anyway hence no one in government gives a shit of a stupid game that dominates like the British Empire did.

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jimmylesaint wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:42 am
There are not enough "non-black" cricketers left in the country for you to "give it back" to them. You cant even put together a white playing 11 in the system right now. Also as much as I dont like the board the truth is we cant blame them for not making the world cup. We all saw that game. We all saw what happened.
Such black entitlement :lol: There's 11 white and asian guys here in Harare that half pissed could beat the Chevrons .
There's 11 white and asian guys 16-24 around the country and world that could beat the Chevrons...they aren't in the system because they are not wanted by the Board because of their colour.

Read the Timveous piece it details a downward spiral from 2004 culminating in the UAE game....it's not the players fault at that particular time it's the players that should have been their and their experience that should have been there.
That downward spiral continues and will end in complete humiliation for our country because of a greedy few......but that's what Zanu has done anyway hence no one in government gives a shit of a stupid game that dominates like the British Empire did.
If they are not wanted by the board then how do you get PJs brother out of all people getting a domestic game? How did Roche get a national team game? You had a high school kid making the tuskers squad. How do you get Murray's talent being appreciated that he comes into the squad whenever he isnt at school? How is half the Chevrons team at full stregnth made up of white players and Raza.

1 big conspiracy theory if you ask me. If these cricketers exist please name this so called team that have not left and are currently sitting in Zimbabwe because Mukuhlani said they shouldnt play.

You cant blame the board for the country falling apart and people of European and Asian heritage trying out other countries. Nothing to do with "black entitlement" especially considering that 2 ministers in the current government that you are criticizing are actually white and we saw a rally last year where white people were supporting the current president and being served tea and biscuits

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If they are not wanted by the board then how do you get PJs brother out of all people getting a domestic game? How did Roche get a national team game? You had a high school kid making the tuskers squad. How do you get Murray's talent being appreciated that he comes into the squad whenever he isnt at school? How is half the Chevrons team at full stregnth made up of white players and Raza.

1 big conspiracy theory if you ask me. If these cricketers exist please name this so called team that have not left and are currently sitting in Zimbabwe because Mukuhlani said they shouldnt play.

You cant blame the board for the country falling apart and people of European and Asian heritage trying out other countries. Nothing to do with "black entitlement" especially considering that 2 ministers in the current government that you are criticizing are actually white and we saw a rally last year where white people were supporting the current president and being served tea and biscuits
Please you are so entitled you're creating your own narrative.Really 2 whole white people in the government??
Some whites had tea and biscuit...must be racial parity!! :roll: :lol:
Look at the people who have left- conveniently to your black supremacy is they left due to the state of the country and not the cricket.
You do realise Mugabe often stated publicly that those with white faces and pink noses can go back to where they came from....and he was patron of cricket.
ZC medium to long term plan is to breed some home grown Pakistani talent and incorporate them into the residency scheme and national cricket team.

Whether UAE win or not(they probably will win) they don't care as they are in the WC alongside a war torn country who used to operate with a $1.5m a year budget! But Zimbabwe has problems :lol: :lol: :oops:

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jimmylesaint wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:15 am
If they are not wanted by the board then how do you get PJs brother out of all people getting a domestic game? How did Roche get a national team game? You had a high school kid making the tuskers squad. How do you get Murray's talent being appreciated that he comes into the squad whenever he isnt at school? How is half the Chevrons team at full stregnth made up of white players and Raza.

1 big conspiracy theory if you ask me. If these cricketers exist please name this so called team that have not left and are currently sitting in Zimbabwe because Mukuhlani said they shouldnt play.

You cant blame the board for the country falling apart and people of European and Asian heritage trying out other countries. Nothing to do with "black entitlement" especially considering that 2 ministers in the current government that you are criticizing are actually white and we saw a rally last year where white people were supporting the current president and being served tea and biscuits
Please you are so entitled you're creating your own narrative.Really 2 whole white people in the government??
Some whites had tea and biscuit...must be racial parity!! :roll: :lol:
Look at the people who have left- conveniently to your black supremacy is they left due to the state of the country and not the cricket.
You do realise Mugabe often stated publicly that those with white faces and pink noses can go back to where they came from....and he was patron of cricket.
ZC medium to long term plan is to breed some home grown Pakistani talent and incorporate them into the residency scheme and national cricket team.

Whether UAE win or not(they probably will win) they don't care as they are in the WC alongside a war torn country who used to operate with a $1.5m a year budget! But Zimbabwe has problems :lol: :lol: :oops:
The UAE are in the world cup? :lol: :lol: :lol: ok .. we will just wait for your revolution to bring back all these players sitting at home waiting for it I guess whilst watching the UAE take on England at Lords in June.

Final thought. The Zim situation is not about race.Money and corruption does not know colour. What you have are a small clique of white multi millionaires (some even billionaires)in bed with the current government who then employ a huge portion of the white community left and this has a huge multiplier effect. Everybody is involved directly or indirectly. It has nothing to do with colour.

Maybe Jimmy can ask his darling friend why his ranch was never completely taken over and still hosts multiple cricket teams up to today. Instead of making it look like its black people chasing everybody out the country and every other race is principled. Unless you are saying he was just "lucky". Especially considering they did try invade it
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/ ... 04770.html

For those who dont believe me these are some clear cut examples. Maybe this is the parity you are talking about

https://mg.co.za/article/2015-09-03-mug ... d-grab-row

https://www.theindependent.co.zw/2013/0 ... o-zanu-pf/

Then you want to blame black people yet their biggest financial backers are white

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