Zimbabwe MOTM Thread

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Re: Zimbabwe MOTM Thread

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ZIM v BD
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Who doesn't have a MOTM award against BD? Must've been 5 candidates per match vs Rebels! Ultra dull Bryan Strang getting one every 2nd game against them.
Who doesn't have a MOTM award against BD? Must've been 5 candidates per match vs Rebels! Ultra dull Bryan Strang getting one every 2nd game against them.
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ZIM vs AFG
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Even Mutumbami, Mpofu and Tiripano have one against the mighty Afghans!
Even Mutumbami, Mpofu and Tiripano have one against the mighty Afghans!
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ZIM vs IRE
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No MOTM award for Sean Williams against the Irish, but he's played the most games against them than any Zimbabwean(14)!
No MOTM award for Sean Williams against the Irish, but he's played the most games against them than any Zimbabwean(14)!
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COMBINED - ZIM vs AFG+BD+IRE


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Re: Zimbabwe MOTM Thread

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How on earth did Sean get the Player of the Match award ahead of captain Hami in this Test?

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/188 ... sh-2018-19
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Sean Williams averages 40 (34 career) with the bat & 31 (46 career) with the ball in winning ODI matches, if he only did well in 'dead rubbers' his numbers in winning matches would be lower than his career, again proving the theory wrong.
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I have always maintained that ZIM have almost always only won whenever the openers/top order have done well. Hence the likes of Hami, Vusi, Matsi, Chakabva, Craig, Mutizwa and Vermeulen having great averages, despite very low or no Not Outs.

Even the previous generation with the likes of Campbell, Grant, Johnson, Goodwin and Wishart.

If Sean Williams' impact was really that great he would have the Strike Rates of Chigumbura and Blignaut to show that he really made the difference, but he doesn't, and his average is not even as good as theirs. Further to that, his modest strike rate is not accompanied by an average as good as Raza or Streak either, who have a similar one to his.

Essentially, in order for Williams the middle order batsman to have a semblance of having won matches regardless of the efficiency of those batting above him, he needed to have a semblance of consistency, which is what the great Andy Flower, Tatenda Taibu and Brendan Taylor showed.

Otherwise, he is comparable to a Doug Marillier(who opened too, and never had the luxury of HK, CAN, UAE & SCO), and less than a Matsi who at least batted in the top 3. Sean's 12 Not Outs severely inflate his stats as his AVG and SR show ZIM were most likely to win the match anyway (difficulty - smart stats).

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Matches Won in Series or Tournaments of 3+ Matches
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ZIM Matchwinners in Series of over 3 matches.
ZIM Matchwinners in Series of over 3 matches.
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With the other Sean vs Guy thread you would have noticed the figures above, and tried to use that to say what about Guy? No doubt Taibu would have topped this 40+ chart below by an incredible distance had he not gone on assylum or retired prematurely, but there is not doubting that these true matchwinners were part of the most number of wins. Guy simply won more matches, against proper opposition. Even with the ball, Hami has won as many matches as Sean for ZIM with his bowling(Elton more).

Batting wise, Sean reminds me of a very poor man's Upula Tharanga(although he opened and could face seamers). Great to watch on occasion, does well against lesser sides/attacks and in inconsequential games. On the surface you will struggle to ignore them among the best players. But dare to look closer? :lol:
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Best Ever
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ZIM Best ever ODIs
ZIM Best ever ODIs
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NB: In bowling you can expect the likes of Paul Strang, Heath, Utseya, Price and Cremer, along with the alleounders Grant and Guy to be there at the very top 30+. As would Olonga, Hondo, Brandes, Blignaut and Raiinsford had they played more, just like Taibu.
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Matchwinner Sean Williams so far:

BCB XI: 2
BD-1: 2
AFG-2: 0
BD-2: ?
AFG-2: ?

After today's disaster, I wonder what magic must be pulled off in the last two matches. No doubt matchwinner Sean Williams will have to be at the centre of it. Considering Raza had scores of - Associate NED: 11, 85*, 14, 7; and IRE: 8, 31, 6, 3, it's pretty obvious he wasn't missed on this tour, and no justifiable fingerpointing can be made towards the selectors. He wasn't going to improve his average of 12 in Ireland against Shakib, Mustafizur, Mujeeb, Nabi and Rashid. Zimbabwe will be eliminated after today.

Anyway, as thing stand, my firm positions about Williams' performance in live rubbers, and Brendan Taylor's miserable away performances to Full Members (IRE: 12, 0, 3, 14, 39; BD: 6; AFG: 27) ALL CONTINUE TO HOLD TRUE AS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE!
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encore wrote: โ†‘
Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:36 pm

Anyway, as thing stand, my firm positions about Williams' performance in live rubbers, and Brendan Taylor's miserable away performances to Full Members (IRE: 12, 0, 3, 14, 39; BD: 6; AFG: 27) ALL CONTINUE TO HOLD TRUE AS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE!
Funnily enough BT's away numbers in ODI's aren't really that bad, his average of 28 is below his career average, but generally most players will struggle a bit more away from home. He's still scored two ODI centuries away from home which is equal 1st for Zimbabwe, only Grant & Campbell have also scored two (Andy Flower didn't even score an away ODI Hundred).

Also Ironically the two leading away ODI averages for Zimbabwe belong to Sikander Raza & Sean Williams :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine ... pe=batting

*note minimum 10 innings

Looking at just the Top 8 sides BT's average is the same @28 so to say BT has a miserable overseas record is not accurate, especially if you look at the likes of Hamilton, Vusi, Elton & Matsi :o :o :o

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine ... pe=batting

It's also worth mentioning BT missed tours to Pakistan and Sri Lanka which were played on batting paradises, who knows how many he would have scored on those roads, I know the guys who did play on those tours numbers' aren't so pretty if you exclude them :D
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Re: Zimbabwe MOTM Thread

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encore wrote: โ†‘
Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:36 pm
Matchwinner Sean Williams so far:

BCB XI: 2
BD-1: 2
AFG-2: 0
BD-2: ?
AFG-2: ?

After today's disaster, I wonder what magic must be pulled off in the last two matches. No doubt matchwinner Sean Williams will have to be at the centre of it. Considering Raza had scores of - Associate NED: 11, 85*, 14, 7; and IRE: 8, 31, 6, 3, it's pretty obvious he wasn't missed on this tour, and no justifiable fingerpointing can be made towards the selectors. He wasn't going to improve his average of 12 in Ireland against Shakib, Mustafizur, Mujeeb, Nabi and Rashid. Zimbabwe will be eliminated after today.

Anyway, as thing stand, my firm positions about Williams' performance in live rubbers, and Brendan Taylor's miserable away performances to Full Members (IRE: 12, 0, 3, 14, 39; BD: 6; AFG: 27) ALL CONTINUE TO HOLD TRUE AS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE!
UPDATE:

Sean 'Dead Rubber" Williams: BD-2, 2; AFG-0, ?

Brendan 'Poor Away-Overpaid Messiah' Taylor: IRE-12, 0, 3, 14, 39; BD-6, 0; AFG-27, ?

Sikander 'Unfairly Dropped' Raza: NED-11, 85, 14, 7; IRE-8, 31, 6, 3; BD: N/A
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Love the part where you left out BTs scores against Netherlands and also the others who did not perform.

Brendan 'overrated waste of overseas space' Taylor vs NED: 71, 51, 13, 40,

Hamilton 'gods gift to cricket Masakadza vs NED: 7, 5, 4, 8, IRE: 15, 4, 23, 1, 0

Easy to fit a narrative

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