SHIT! Zimbabwe lost to Singapore

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I give them 5 years absolute tops.
There’s no 50 years in Africa, bud. Armageddon will be upon Africa way before then. Zim will have 40 million people and SA will be over 100 million with the same broken inadequate infrastructures that couldn’t support their current populations. Neither government has the will, the expertise or the resources to remotely cater for their increasingly angry and desperate people.

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Googly, we've had these conversations before about how many chances the players got. Ingram, Levi, Vilas, Kuhn, Cook, Rilee etc and now TdB all got chances. Olivier and Abbott also left without reasonable cause - just greed, but would have struggled to compete against the likes of Rabada and Ngidi anyway. Nortje and Hamza coming up on merit. Harmer failed in international cricket and was at Piedt's level, so wouldn't have displaced Maharaj or Tahir in LOIs, plus he was behind Shamsi and Phangiso in LOIs, even Cloete now. That's not the point. The cream will always rise to the top, just like Rassie vdD. Many said I was crazy when I told them an old Frylinck would play but he did. So the old guys are still accomodated too. Miller should have long been dropped if there was any bias. In fact Rilee got a lot of patience but spat at the selectors' face.

As for administration, the best run sport is soccer/football, which is entirely black run, and cricket is not too far behind. The worst run and most corrupt sport in the country is Rugby, which is entirely white run (And the players who are leaving for Europe are leaving for money, not because they are not in the XV every time. NZ players still stay in NZ while earning less money than Saffers do in ENG and FRA clubs). Nobody accuses Argentina rugby of maladministration when their players were essentially all in France, and no one accuses Ireland cricket when their players are in County not at home. Cricket in SA got punished by India (BCCI). It's got very little to do with corruption or funds lost, just politics because. Majola bonuses, but that's peanuts. Ali Bacher was guilty of the same. Just because he's not in the media doesn't mean he didn't unfairly benefit. All in all way less than R5m lost because of "corruption" or unethical corporate governance. Where have you ever read of any real corruption and maladminstration in cricket in South Africa. You're talking absolute nonsense on this one honestly.

SA will continue to be competitive. Do you honestly think Vilas and Kepler's son, while more than decent would be doing as well in SA's FC competitions?

I wouldn't have gone in with that approach to the India Test. That was a flat pitch in which I feel the Proteas should have scored far more runs in their f1st innings. Our approach is wrong, and our batting order is wrong. Ther eis absolutely no logic in Faf and QdK batting lower than Aiden, Bavuma, TdB. What is Faf doing at 5??? Why is QdK still hogging the gloves, yet he wants to be spoken of in the same sentence as Root, Kohli, KW, Smith and Babar?

Elgar, Faf, QdK, Markram, Bavuma, Klaasen(wk), Muthusamy, Philander, Maharaj, Rabada, Ngidi

Considering the little bit of rain and the flat pitch for most of the 3 days, I honestly feel we should have confirmed that match as a draw, having batted only once. That pitch wasn't so bad. Even Piedt, Rabada, Muthusamy could bat on it. The approach is the problem. Faf is the problem. Just like in the CWC. If there were question marks around Reeza, Markram and Amla ahead to partner QdK, he should have just opened, but he chose not to. He sent Piedt as a nightwatchman in the 1st innings and when that backfired, he decided Bavuma would be the number 4 instead of him. Yet in IPL he opens, becasue of money! Faf is increasingly becoming a problem becasue of entitlement. The same reason even he and the coaches became frustrated with AB. What business are you doing batting as low as 5 in this lineup in Indian pitches. This is crazy. Same applies to QdK. He should have long been a specialist bastmen.
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encore wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:31 pm

As for administration, the best run sport is soccer/football, which is entirely black run, and cricket is not too far behind. The worst run and most corrupt sport in the country is Rugby, which is entirely white run.
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To summarise. Black man can steal millions and is best run. White man can do good and is corrupt.

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Googly wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:10 pm
I’d be curious how many young guys have been absorbed into their domestic structures, particularly last year’s u19’s.
More nonsense.

Matthew Breetzke just underservedly went to India with the national team. PW Mulder was fasttracked under Gibson too. The likes of van Tonder, Makwetu are all in the mix as well for SA Emerging. As is Makhaya Ntini's son. Our system is immaculate. Don't forget Rabada and Ngidi along with many others.

Plenty of the former u19s/top Varsity bats are in our domestic competitions. We are already ahead of ENG and AUS in that regard. Way ahead due the sheer numbers of former u13s, 15s, 17s, 19s, now in the system. All largely on merit.

Not much talent gets lost in the SA system. Read this: https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/sport ... does-work/

I've said it before and I'll say it again - even an All-Black Proteas and Springboks will continue to to excel at the top of cricket and rugby.

Since indepence in 1994 or reintroduction to international football just before then, we've never really had a consistently long time at the top in Football rankings to be able to sustain our top soccer players getting easy access to Europe(unlike Egypt, Tunisia, Morroco, Algeria, Nigeria, Cameroon, Senegal, Ghana, Zambia, Ivory Coast etc). But soon that will change as more and more of our top young players are in the top 10 football leagues in Europe. SA will dominate all of Cricket, Rugby and Football at the global stage in the next 10-20 years.
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As corrupt as you claim SARU is, being white run and all, they’re still winning :lol:
The other squeaky clean cricket and soccer boards get dry humped.
When some guys leave then of course others make it on merit, there is no one else.
As a fact there’s about R230m missing from CSA, where are you getting 5m from?
That’s the problem Encore, you’ve spiked your stats so many times that we’re all checking what you write now.

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How fast do u type? :lol:
Have u got a secretary? Stand by, am coming with info. You talk a lot of rubbish mixed in with some grains of truth.

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Referring me to an article written by a guy with as big an axe to grind as you is hardly worth a mention.

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Encore saying Rugby is terribly run and cricket is good in SA?

Ok come on. They are just losing a test match as I wrote this and also yet the same time the Rugby team is on track to win the whole thing, so how can you say that?
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Rugby in SA is fucked. Last World Cup, Japan, not even in the top 15 at the time, blew SA out of the water. I know this 100 percent because I was watching it.

SA should be top of the Union pile. They don’t have League to contend with like England, Australia, NZ and the Islands. Yet corrupt white officials can’t utilise this exclusive talent bank to win titles?

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zimbos_05 wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:42 pm
encore wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:31 pm

As for administration, the best run sport is soccer/football, which is entirely black run, and cricket is not too far behind. The worst run and most corrupt sport in the country is Rugby, which is entirely white run.
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To summarise. Black man can steal millions and is best run. White man can do good and is corrupt.
Everyone knows that Rugby in SA has been rotten to the core for many years. The Springboks should have been way ahead of even New Zealand, and AUS, WAL, FRA, ENG and IRE not even worthy competition. All the Boks simply had to do was show up. They've underachieved becasue of corruption, racism and nepotism. All races have been affected by SARU - Indian, Coloured, White and Black!

They ganged up even on Mandela when he tried to clean up SA Rugby. The South African government is cleaner than SA Rugby. Apat from funds abuse, we've even got rampant drug abuse(performance ehancing) from Junior to Currie Cup levels that goes unreported, mothers fornicating with coaches and selectors, former rugby players are more damaged than American army veterans (Joost, Small etc). SA Rugby is dirty to the core. Just because the media focuses on poor former soccer players, doesn't mean things aren't far worse in rugby.

You and Googly are victims of propaganda and swartgevaar. Some of us see these things before our very eyes. It's just as bad in the Education/Tertiary system too. Media might eg bad mouth Varsities in KZN, but accross all Varsities UCT, Wits, Stellenbosch everyone knows the Lecturers write assignments and thesis for white students, and pass many others. Do you honestly think that would be exposed? Ho many degreed, even some with Masters, do you think I've interviewed but one would struggle to say they are more than 1st years? The system is rotten! If the Directors were competent, why would they even need to collude and fix prices? Lok at Wiese, Jooste, Steinhoff, Glasenberg, etc. Our white directors are far more corrupt that the government, and what they lose for shareholders(including Black workers' pensions funds) almost four times more than any assumed government maladmistration.
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