ICC Under 19 World Cup 2020 South Africa

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Re: ICC Under 19 World Cup 2020 South Africa

Post by Googly » Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:20 am

Richie Lock I think has given up as well.
Same as Hopper. Both decent players.
Shardendorf seems to be on the fringes of Notts Two’s.
He’s a good player. He’s another that will get lost in the post unless he does something monumental this coming season. There’s always only a small window before they move onto the next crop coming through. It’s an endless wave of players there. He needs hundreds!

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Re: ICC Under 19 World Cup 2020 South Africa

Post by ZIMDOGGY » Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:23 am

It’s interesting.

A common theme seems to be an aversion to grind it out and face the adversity to make it internationally. Burl the exception.

Lake looks like he would be great to fill in the Malcolm Waller numbed 7 X factor role.

Problem is when these guys decide to take study breaks and all that it stunts progress and development. Hamilton I don’t think lived up to his early promise post study. He lacked that extra step you’d expect of someone making centuries on debut at 17.
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Re: ICC Under 19 World Cup 2020 South Africa

Post by Terryalderman » Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:30 am

Just looking at Australia’s 2012 side. Three players went on to play test cricket (Bancroft, Head and Paterson) and three others ODI (Turner, Paris and Sandhu). Of the 15, 12 played first class cricket (Sam Hain in England), while Buchanan (one BBL game), Gregory(6 LA games) and Shane Cassell (no domestic cricket) where the ones who didn’t make an impact. Not sure if this gives indication of better selection, better development or most likely better economy!!

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Re: ICC Under 19 World Cup 2020 South Africa

Post by Googly » Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:39 am

Yes agreed. Whilst it’s prudent to get a tertiary education, if you’re going to play in Zim, it definitely slows most people down. I don’t think it would slow Lake down, he’s just a raw talent that could pick it up after a couple of years.

Aah I’ve watched Sam Hain. Good player.

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Re: ICC Under 19 World Cup 2020 South Africa

Post by Googly » Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:58 am

Terry, it’s an indication of thieves in charge of our cricket.
They don’t even have pathways for player development.
RS and AC Academy was not even their initiative, they don’t give a damn. As long as that gravy train keeps pulling into the station they’re happy. The only thing that worries them is not being too embarrassed by a possible poor showing by a member nation at the U19, which is why they rope in people from all over, pick over age players, pick guys who will never play cricket again, pick guys that they know will play elsewhere immediately after etc etc....and amongst all of that there’s always someone willing to take some money to slot in a couple of guys who will be water boys until there’s a dead rubber, which usually happens sooner rather than later.
The only guys that stay here after U19 are the guys that have no other options. Where’s Masakanda for example?
The only two guys I can think of are Burl and Moor who were of FC caliber who’ve stuck it out here.
A huge send off for these u19’s with rousing speeches but they haven’t even had one proper game against another u19 side yet. They will be sacrificing chickens and hoping for a miracle. ZC are a disgrace. Incompetent thieves is all.

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Re: ICC Under 19 World Cup 2020 South Africa

Post by Black Mamba » Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:01 pm

That 2016 under 19 lot looked to have some individual skills. Jeremy Ives, Adam Keefe, healthy build Saun Snyder, and Kundai Matigamu who was hitting 140+ in slow pitches of Bangladesh

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Re: ICC Under 19 World Cup 2020 South Africa

Post by Googly » Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:03 pm

I think only one age group side was picked this year and their games in SA were rained off. It’s all just smoke and mirrors to kid people that they’re doing stuff.
Then they hope to find a good u19 player after kids have been at school for 12 years and they’ve never played a season of really competitive cricket in all that time.

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Re: ICC Under 19 World Cup 2020 South Africa

Post by Googly » Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:06 pm

Matigimu is still playing good cricket. I think the others have taken their foot off the gas. I think Keefe went to U.K. with big hopes.

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Re: ICC Under 19 World Cup 2020 South Africa

Post by zimfan1 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:10 pm

2014: UAE

Malcolm Lake Moved to the UK where he has played for Oxford University and Daberyshire 2nds. Studying to become a lawyer, plays club cricket in London.

Deven Bell Played club cricket in the Somerset league in the UK before returning home to play a few first class matches for the Tuskers (took a five wicket haul in his only first class game). Now pursuing a career as a Strength and conditioning Coach and Sport coach at Wellington School in the UK.

Ryan Burl Originally went to University in the UK before dropping out to return to play cricket in Zimbabwe, played a number of seasons in the UK before finally getting his chance in the national side.Has played in the BPL and the Afghanistan Premier League[/b]

Herbert Chikomba Played 11 first class games for the Eagles before moving to South Africa to coach in a private school. Has recently been part of Alistair Campbell's Academy but not selected for the Rangers squad to take part in the Logan Cup. Is named in the Rhinos squad but has not played this season.

Kieran Geyle Went to University of Southampton in the UK, played club cricket and a few games for Hampshire 2nds. Now lives in London where he plays club cricket.

Joylord Gumbie Played a few seasons for the Eagles where he showed promise scoring 168* in the Logan Cup, did not play in the 2018.2019 season but now with the Mountaineers and hit 63 to continue his fine form shown in this seasons Vigne Cup where he is currently the leading run scorer.

Shoun Handirisi Has played 26 first class games without making a great impression. Averages below 20 in all formats. Has done nothing to show that he is worthy of a place in the domestic system.

Cuthbert Musoko Broke onto the domestic scene but has not played in the last couple of years. Think he was the top wicket taker in the Vinge Cup last year. Played some club cricket in the UK.

Luke Jongwe The first of this group to play international cricket. Drifted away from the game due to drugs and alcohol problems, trying to force his way back into the domestic game at the moment, has played a number of seasons with some success in the UK.

Dylan Hondo Has been one of the standout performers in club cricket in recent years without ever getting a chance with one of the franchises. Has finally been given a chance this seasons with the Rangers under Gary Brent. Will be interesting to see how he goes.

Tinashe Kamunhukamwe Took a while to be given a chance in the domestic game as he spent several seasons on the bench of a strong and experienced Mountaineers squad. Went on the Rising Stars tour to the UK where he worked hard on his game. Scored heavily in the Rising Starts one and only season in first class cricket and continued his good form for the Eagles where he is making good progress under the guidance of Stuart Matsikenyeri. Will look to add to his three ODI caps in the near future.

Charles Kunje Has made a good fist of applying his trade in the domestic game with two centuries to date for the Tuskers. Was the 2nd highest run scorer in the 2016/17 season with 415 runs @ 41.50. His has built up some good UK experience, firstly for Meigle CC, in 2015 season in the North East Championship in Scotland – scoring 513 runs and scalping 29 wickets avg @ 12.24 and in 2018, with Ivybridge CC. One of the better batsman on the domestic circuit but is not in great shape fitness wise.

Patrick Mambo A very talented cricketer who put his cricket career on hold to go and study in South Africa. Has returned to Zimbabwe and has put forward some promising performances for the Eagles. One to watch out for with bat and ball.

Tarisai Musakanda Has played all around the world, scoring runs in club cricket in the UK and Australia, expect him to return and play for Zimbabwe in the near future.

Mkhululi Nyathi A fringe player at the Rhinos without ever breaking through. Went on the Rising Stars tour. Is listed as part of the Rhinos squad for the Logan Cup but has not made an appearance to date.

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Re: ICC Under 19 World Cup 2020 South Africa

Post by Googly » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:11 pm

Any other contributions? This is good stuff. It just shows what long odds it is to make a pro career of cricket, you’ve probably got more chance here than anywhere else, but still incredibly tough to become a regular.

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