Match Thread | Zimbabwe vs Bangladesh | Mirpur, Dhaka | 2020

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ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:11 am
Anyone know why BT came ahead of Craig?
I was wondering that as well.

This game will be over by tea tomorrow, if not lunch. I don't see us having the grit to hang around this time.

This is why I still advocate for a stone walling approach in the first innings. Batting time is just as important for us as scoring runs because it gives us options later in the game. If we only bat four sessions or so, like we did in this game, then it just leaves too much time in the match for the opposition to put up a mammoth score risk-free.

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No, because it means they would have been all out for 170 with an hour extra batting tops. Meaning the two factors cancel each other out.

And The their thing I don’t think you’ve quite understood BRMT. When batsmen stonewall, the fielding/bowling team can refine their field and exploit this once they identify this is what the batsman is doing. They will put people around the bat. This is why it never ever works in cricket and no coach or pundit recommends it. Stonewalling only works when the field is spread and they don’t know it’s what you are doing. Good luck trying to hide that.
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ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:24 am
No, because it means they would have been all out for 170 with an hour extra batting tops. Meaning the two factors cancel each other out.

And The their thing I don’t think you’ve quite understood BRMT. When batsmen stonewall, the fielding/bowling team can refine their field and exploit this once they identify this is what the batsman is doing. They will put people around the bat. This is why it never ever works in cricket and no coach or pundit recommends it. Stonewalling only works when the field is spread and they don’t know it’s what you are doing. Good luck trying to hide that.
I'm not suggesting we leave half volleys outside off stump, just that we focus more on the number of overs more than the number of runs.

We also have to play to our strengths. We aren't the sort of team that can pile on 500 runs at 4 an over. Maybe we can be a team which becomes hellbent on batting 160 overs though? If we do that, we're always going to have 350+ on the board - and the pressure is on the other side to either compile a huge score quickly (taking extra risks) or to concede a draw.

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As disappointing as it is to have a scoreline like this, I'm still happy for Mushfiqur and Shanto. Both are good players and hopefully they can help Bangladesh get back on track in tests. Kriterion, is Shanto likely to play in the limited overs stuff or is he a five day specialist? From this game and the Pakistan series he seems quite talented.
I think he will definitely play the ODIs.

A little history on Shanto. At 21, he's still a very young player. He first came into the limelight several years ago. Its been so long in fact, that I don't recall when or where I was when we first started talking about him. He must have been 14 or 15 at the time so around 2013-14 perhaps. But I feel like Shanto has bee talked about since 2010 or so. Can't be that early. He was head and shoulders above his peers at that time and was probably the youngest player we've had on the U-19 team. He debuted in the 2nd Test in NZ back in 2017 and though he didn't score much I was quite impressed with his technique. He didn't get another shot until the 2018 Asia Cup, where he struggled heavily, and then continued to struggle heavily in the 2018 series vs Zimbabwe. At that stage, some 15 months ago, I would not have rated him very highly. However, he must have gone back to the nets, because he scored heavily in our first class leagues and got recalled in the Rawalpindi Test against a decent Pakistani attack. Was easily our best batsman in that Test, and hit a really nice 71 here vs Zimbabwe.

I'm very excited about his potential batting at #3 in our Test team, because it will let Mominul go back to his natural #4 spot. I also think he could be a special ODI player for us, so I hope he gets to bat in the top 3 there as well.
That's interesting to read, thank you. Sometimes you just see a player and think "they've got it" and I kind of felt that watching bits of the Pakistan test.

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I think they might have sent Taylor out ahead of Ervine because he was a better match up (as a right hander) to Nayeem. Only reason I can think of after the first innings century.

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Nanctus wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:24 pm
Kriterion_BD wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:01 am
Nanctus wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:10 am
As disappointing as it is to have a scoreline like this, I'm still happy for Mushfiqur and Shanto. Both are good players and hopefully they can help Bangladesh get back on track in tests. Kriterion, is Shanto likely to play in the limited overs stuff or is he a five day specialist? From this game and the Pakistan series he seems quite talented.
I think he will definitely play the ODIs.

A little history on Shanto. At 21, he's still a very young player. He first came into the limelight several years ago. Its been so long in fact, that I don't recall when or where I was when we first started talking about him. He must have been 14 or 15 at the time so around 2013-14 perhaps. But I feel like Shanto has bee talked about since 2010 or so. Can't be that early. He was head and shoulders above his peers at that time and was probably the youngest player we've had on the U-19 team. He debuted in the 2nd Test in NZ back in 2017 and though he didn't score much I was quite impressed with his technique. He didn't get another shot until the 2018 Asia Cup, where he struggled heavily, and then continued to struggle heavily in the 2018 series vs Zimbabwe. At that stage, some 15 months ago, I would not have rated him very highly. However, he must have gone back to the nets, because he scored heavily in our first class leagues and got recalled in the Rawalpindi Test against a decent Pakistani attack. Was easily our best batsman in that Test, and hit a really nice 71 here vs Zimbabwe.

I'm very excited about his potential batting at #3 in our Test team, because it will let Mominul go back to his natural #4 spot. I also think he could be a special ODI player for us, so I hope he gets to bat in the top 3 there as well.
That's interesting to read, thank you. Sometimes you just see a player and think "they've got it" and I kind of felt that watching bits of the Pakistan test.
That's really interesting, because I saw this kid during the 2016 Under 19's CWC and said he looked excellent. Ian Bishop was even talking him up at the time in great depth, that he was a future star. Nice to know he's not been left behind and has worked at his game. Looks like he has the goods

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ZIMDOGGY wrote:
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No, because it means they would have been all out for 170 with an hour extra batting tops. Meaning the two factors cancel each other out.

And The their thing I don’t think you’ve quite understood BRMT. When batsmen stonewall, the fielding/bowling team can refine their field and exploit this once they identify this is what the batsman is doing. They will put people around the bat. This is why it never ever works in cricket and no coach or pundit recommends it. Stonewalling only works when the field is spread and they don’t know it’s what you are doing. Good luck trying to hide that.
I'm not suggesting we leave half volleys outside off stump, just that we focus more on the number of overs more than the number of runs.

We also have to play to our strengths. We aren't the sort of team that can pile on 500 runs at 4 an over. Maybe we can be a team which becomes hellbent on batting 160 overs though? If we do that, we're always going to have 350+ on the board - and the pressure is on the other side to either compile a huge score quickly (taking extra risks) or to concede a draw.
Then that isn’t quite what stonewalling is. Which to me is sub 2 an over. If we are just going to wait for half volleys though they are going to be rare. So maybe that is stonewalling by default since a test attack will rarely serve you that.

If I may be so bold, I would recommend you adjust your stance slightly to just cautious and patient. 2.5-3 runs an over. For me that covers the cautious approach to bat long but gets the runs ticking, enough to keep the field guessing. Keep the holes open. This can take the form of consistent and steady run rate or very quiet followed by spontaneous hits off super aggression once the field is brought in.

When I play cricket. I stonewall and then chimp out when there’s space. Allowed me to mishit balls in the air for runs.
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I see Frank mawoza is critsizing Taylor in first innings rather than the selectors for picking people like ndlovu and maruma. Truly a ZC puppet

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Mushfiqur Rahim:
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id ... iqur-rahim
They didn't have much threat in their bowling attack.
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