i'm just going to address the migrant stuff here because I think we are on the same wavelength regarding health insurance reform.Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:09 amIf they pay their taxes which would go to funding the "free healthcare" (misnomer since its not FREE, but rather universal healthcare), then there is no problem.ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:57 amThe problem with Central Americans in this context is when America offer free healthcare to everyone, no matter what, and they see an opportunity to work for 13 dollars an hour cash in hand AND an easy ride across the border, watch the system collapse. Surely you can see this.
Why would the system collapse? Once the $13 dollar an hour jobs become saturated, there would be no room for excess migrants and they would stop coming in. Its a natural built in solution.
No the point falls fast. State schools are 1/8th as expensive as Harvard, but the real reason is all the GOV has to do is say "we will reimburse you as long as your tution rate increases only at the rate of inflation (around 2.5% annually)". Its the government, they can create any stipulatin they want and the universities will have to agree if they want the money. Simply beautiful.Maybe Harvard was a bad example of what you say is true, but just replace Harvard with a government uni and the point still stands.
Universities aren't a for-profit business, they are an essential educational institution and thus have no right or need to arbitrarily jack their prices up just to scam money.
As a good capitalist, I hope that you are still voluntarily paying for your healthcare even if you can get it for free.Poorer nations can achieve it, but they reserve free healthcare for citizens and residents. Where I am, you need to be working to be on the free healthcare register and to be working you need a residency permit.
Just teasing. So we would apply the same rule to Central American migrants coming over, to use your example. You get to the border, apply for asylum, if you are deemed to be in genuine danger, you come in and get a green card. Voila imaginary problem solved.
There are many Christian migrants who apply for asylum from Iraq and Syria, claiming that their lives are in danger in their homelands due to their religious beliefs. Would you wish for these people to be turned away just so the average taxpayer can save 100 bucks a year on taxes? Central Americans are Christians too.
If this is solved it would end 90% of the problems we have. Like I said, we ALREADY have the money for this stuff: its in the trillion dollar tax cuts, and the trillion dollars we've invested in places like Afghanistan - money which Trump and his supporters want to save.I do agree that insurance scammers need to be stopped and half the issues in American health are solved if that one point is addressed.
Someone once explained it to me in detail after watching a doco and the price gouging is horrendous. They see an opportunity similar to my university/free tuition example and big pharma and insurance exploit it.
People border hopping from the south into America and the refugee stuff is a different issue. Although refugee migration is also horrifically abused and exploited.
When people come from Mexico. They fly under the radar. They are there illegally. They get fake social security numbers and survive in a black market version of society. From what i know, they dont get health benefits as is,they arent entitled to it. They do this because if they can undercut labour laws and get 6/7 USD an hour cooking burrito's on the side of the road or working on some farm in the middle of Texas, that beats being in a tin hut in a poor part of mexico getting less than half that. And employers are all too happy to save costs this way (this must be addressed too).
Also, if they just killed someone and need to flee before the police twig they did it, or they are drug runners, they have nefarious reasons for being across the border. They make up the minority, but they are very very dangerous and real risks of people. coming across with no identity in the USA.
When you say "Once the $13 dollar an hour jobs become saturated, there would be no room for excess migrants and they would stop coming in" i dont know if you are doing it on purpose but that creates the perfect opportunity to incentivise illegals coming in.
The min rate goes up, added costs and pressure on an employer. He starts to freak out and then he is further incentivised to offer Jose 9 an hour instead.
Jose is now making 9 instead of 6, theres more bandwidth for negotiation now. Angel and Miguel, who didnt cross earlier, now see its worth it as 9 is alot better than 6, which in turn is better than the 2 they get now! And they all come across and they are are receiving free healthcare like a 7th generation American as an added bonus.
This is going to be an absolute disaster for low skilled and low paid americans. Watch the blacks be the first to fire up as they would be the ones with the most to lose.