Kids aren't encouraged to bowl fast, they're told to bowl line and length. What few games are played are T20 where they take the pace off, come off a shorter run up to get through the overs on time and try and bowl accurately.
School cricket is dead and buried here, it will never be resurrected to 2014 levels even.
The tap is finally off, a trickle here and there is all. Covid has not helped, there are no kids anywhere excitedly practicing for next year. I heard Peter House were putting in some practice- that's one school
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There's a young kid called Klaus Price at St Johns? Apparently he's a talented batter and bowls sharp for his age (15). Could be worked with.
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I think that's all a bit too negative about the situation imo. It is my firm belief that man for man Zimbabwe is probably the second most talented cricketing nation on the planet after the West Indies, and cricket despite the administrators best attempts for years will never fully die in Zim, the schools consistently turn out unbelievable talents and tbf to them they make the most of this gift by going to countries like England and playing their talents there where they will get adequately rewarded instead of playing 5 odis a year without pay.
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Was? But still? Don't know.Kallum wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:51 pmI think that's all a bit too negative about the situation imo. It is my firm belief that man for man Zimbabwe is probably the second most talented cricketing nation on the planet after the West Indies, and cricket despite the administrators best attempts for years will never fully die in Zim, the schools consistently turn out unbelievable talents and tbf to them they make the most of this gift by going to countries like England and playing their talents there where they will get adequately rewarded instead of playing 5 odis a year without pay.
That said, all things being equal just on numbers, Zimbabwe have no right to be anywhere near the top 20
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I always wonder this as well. There's been an apocalyptic prediction here that we wouldn't ever be able to churn out players like Welch or Byrom or Lake, and yet in the last few world cups we've produced some excellent cricketers.
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Producing guys who can shine at Under-19 CWCs is easier than producing guys who can spend 15-20 years at the top. It is much harder to stay at the top of a sport once everyone catches up physically and mentally. Look how many footballers are stars of Under-19 FIFA tournaments and then fall off the radar completely and end up playing for teams in the Hungarian third division. Zimbabwe can clearly produce some talented youngsters but few if any of them go on to be dominant whether they stay in Zimbabwe or go elsewhere.
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I'm not so sure that's true in a Zimbabwean context.eugene wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:33 amProducing guys who can shine at Under-19 CWCs is easier than producing guys who can spend 15-20 years at the top. It is much harder to stay at the top of a sport once everyone catches up physically and mentally. Look how many footballers are stars of Under-19 FIFA tournaments and then fall off the radar completely and end up playing for teams in the Hungarian third division. Zimbabwe can clearly produce some talented youngsters but few if any of them go on to be dominant whether they stay in Zimbabwe or go elsewhere.
Usually sports where kids are good but drop off are ones that are naturally talented and aren't reliant on coaching, that get overtaken eventually by players who use their head more.
Zimbabwe don't have the playing numbers and seem to have survived by being smarter pee capita in cricket nations.
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Have the ZIM U-19s done all that well at the U-19 world cup? Even Madhavere didn't have Bradmanesque stats in the last World Cup. Its part of why I'm so surprised that he's started his ODI career with such a large bang.eugene wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:33 amProducing guys who can shine at Under-19 CWCs is easier than producing guys who can spend 15-20 years at the top. It is much harder to stay at the top of a sport once everyone catches up physically and mentally. Look how many footballers are stars of Under-19 FIFA tournaments and then fall off the radar completely and end up playing for teams in the Hungarian third division. Zimbabwe can clearly produce some talented youngsters but few if any of them go on to be dominant whether they stay in Zimbabwe or go elsewhere.
Have to agree with Zimdoggy...the numbers of players who take the game up seriously just aren't there.
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Interesting reading. I don't see Lake's 100 or Marumani's 42 avg but its mostly accurate. Madhevere, Shumba, Taylor and Taibu are on the page.
Interesting reading. I don't see Lake's 100 or Marumani's 42 avg but its mostly accurate. Madhevere, Shumba, Taylor and Taibu are on the page.
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Madhevere is the leading all time wicket taker!
Madhevere is the leading all time wicket taker!