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Re: State of SA

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:18 pm
by Kallum
Raynard van Tonder is a serious serious player, but knowing how the SA system works (and trust me i do) he will get continuously overlooked.

Why Keegan Petersen has never been picked ahead of Bavuma in a test is frankly beyond me, i understand why he isnt in any other format but this guy helps with transformation, is a better batsman than Bavuma and is decent in the field. Unless this oak has done some shady stuff behind closed doors i really dont understand it.

Kyle Verreynne could go the way of David Beddingham if the selectors arnt careful. I understand they're looking for a black batsman but this guy is a ready made superstar who has frankly been carrying the Cobras for the past two years with some help from the Malan brothers and George Linde. In my opinion he should replace Faf in the test setup.


My next home SA series test XI provided they're all fit is as follows.

1. Elgar (C)
2. Markram
3. van der Dussen / Raynard van Tonder
4. Verreynne
5. Petersen
6. de Kock (WK)
7. Mulder
8. Maharaj
9. Nortje
10. Rabada
11. Ngidi

4 out of 11 for transformation targets which is well below unfortunately but thankfully the quota extends to the whole year overall including all formats so what i think Boucher is doing is blooding some of the promising black and coloured players in the T20Is which is what SA have always done in order to fulfill these targets.

If transformation for a test team has to be obliged then its a much weaker best XI but my best XI would be

1. Elgar (C)
2. Markram
3. Hamza
4. Petersen
5. Bavuma
6. de Kock (WK)
7. Mulder
8. Maharaj
9. Nortje
10. Rabada
11. Ngidi

Sorry that this was abit rambly but thought an SA expat opinion might be somewhat valued

Re: State of SA

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:57 pm
by sloandog
I've seen Van Tonder too and he's a gun.

Re: State of SA

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:00 pm
by sloandog
In my honest opinion he's as talented as Aiden Markram. Hamza is totally over rated, while Kyle Verreyne is just a freakishly talented kid.

I've been advocating for Malan and Verreyne to be included since 2018, I'm normally spot on with my predictions when it comes to young blokes in SA.

Marco Jansen is going to be the next superstar

Re: State of SA

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:02 am
by Flakeman
Still amazing to see the ICC just ignore completely racist selection policies. This the era of woke, though.

Re: State of SA

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:25 pm
by zimfan1
Flakeman wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:02 am
Still amazing to see the ICC just ignore completely racist selection policies. This the era of woke, though.
Yet they avoided suspension even though there is clear government interference!

Re: State of SA

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:27 am
by sam_ahm
Looks like more trouble for South Africa as they run the risk of govt dissolving CSA and thus also running the risk of a suspension by the ICC.


South Africa sports minister to intervene after CSA fails to agree on MOI

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/sout ... oi-1259510

At the moment I think ZC is being run better than CSA.

Re: State of SA

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:54 pm
by Zimco
I just looked at abd's stats and he only played 13 odis and 4 tests against Zim ,yet he played 32 odis against India and 32 against Pakistan.

Zim should be playing SA way more, at least their A team. Their needs to be an Africa cup like the Asia cup. I know there is some sort of T20 one in Africa but no odi one like the Asia cup.

Apparently the 2021 Africa T20 cup doesn't include SA and Zim, only associates.

Re: State of SA

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:28 am
by Rajkumar Sharma

Re: State of SA

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:19 pm
by sam_ahm
Looks like CSA is all set to be dissolved by the government. Where does South African cricket go from here?

Re: State of SA

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:52 pm
by sloandog
Why are the ICC not doing something like they did with the Zimbabwe situation