[Series Thread] Australia in Bangladesh 2017

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Mominul back in Bangladesh Test squad
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Twenty-four hours after he was dropped for the first time in his Test career, Mominul Haque has been reinstated in the Bangladesh squad for the first Test against Australia, which starts from August 27. Mominul will replace Mosaddek Hossain, who is suffering from an eye infection, and the turnaround came after a meeting between the BCB president, Nazmul Hassan, and the selection committee.

Mosaddek will need at least 15 days of rest for his condition to improve, according to an eye specialist. His infection was known to the selectors after he missed Bangladesh's training camp in Chittagong earlier this month. During Saturday's press conference, coach Chandika Hathurusingha had said that Nasir Hossain had been picked in the 14-man squad as Mosaddek's back-up.

However, following a stormy press conference after the team's announcement on Saturday and subsequent criticism by the media, the BCB president called the selection committee, which also includes Hathurusingha, for an impromptu meeting. Hassan later said that such discussions with selectors and players often occur before a tour or home series, and this time took place after the squad was announced. Hassan said he would have insisted on Mominul's inclusion in the squad if he had met with the selectors before Saturday's announcement.

"I don't know if he would be in the XI but there was an opportunity to keep him in the squad," Hassan said. "What would happen if they made it a 15-man squad instead of a 14-man squad? There's no need to create controversy. Anybody would feel bad seeing Mominul out of the squad.

"We have decided that Mominul is coming in as Saikat has an eye infection. So we don't want to take a risk with him. See, it wouldn't have come to that if we didn't have a gap [in communication]."

Squad for the first Test: Mushfiqur Rahim (capt & wk), Mominul Haque, Tamim Iqbal, Imrul Kayes, Liton Das, Soumya Sarkar, Shakib Al Hasan, Sabbir Rahman, Mustafizur Rahman, Taijul Islam, Mehedi Hasan, Taskin Ahmed, Nasir Hossain, Shafiul Islam.

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Yeah apparently the senior players went behind the coach's back and asked the BCB president Nazmul Hasan to intervene. Shakib, Tamim, Mushy, and Mashrafe went to Hasan's house allegedly and the next day the President forced the coach to include Mominul.

BCB also reportedly will be scaling down Hathuri's powers in selection. Thank God.
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Kriterion_BD wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:20 pm
Yeah apparently the senior players went behind the coach's back and asked the BCB president Nazmul Hasan to intervene. Shakib, Tamim, Mushy, and Mashrafe went to Hasan's house allegedly and the next day the President forced the coach to include Mominul.

BCB also reportedly will be scaling down Hathuri's powers in selection. Thank God.
I thought he was doing a good job as coach?

Who would you like to coach the side Kriterion?
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jaybro wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:54 am
I thought he was doing a good job as coach?

Who would you like to coach the side Kriterion?
The team has risen under his stewardship, but I attribute that more to him being at the right place at the right time. The coach has actually not taken a single wicket, scored a single run, or even effected a run out for the team.

At this level being a coach is more about man management skills. Most teams have specialists to really oversee the nuts and bolts of batting, bowling, fielding departments. Hathuri (what BD fans call him which coincidentally translates to "hammer" in Bengali) was touted as an excellent tactician when he left Australia and started coaching BD. During his time, BD certainly have become a tactically better side.

However he seems to target certain players who then get blacklisted. The first guy on the list was Nasir Hossain. Nasir had a prolonged dip in form, but the guy had been in form constantly for a period of 2-3 years until 2014 when he was finally dropped. And he was basically on the sidelines ever since. Thats not the right way to go, and as evidence even with his dip in form or whatever, Nasir has Test average of 37. That is not terrible and he's only 25 years old. He should have been in and around the squad and not abandoned as he was.

In 2014, there were rumors Mominul would be dropped and at that time he was averaging 75 from his first 7 Test matches with 3 hundreds. Hathuri explicitly criticized his technique, which I find very odd for a guy averaging north of 70. Being dropped turned out to only be a rumor, but Mominul was eventually dropped rather prematurely after scores of:

66, 1, 64, 23, 12, 27, 7, and 5.

Sure that form isn't great, but you also have to realize that just 3 Tests earlier he had back to back fifties.

As a coach he has far too much authority in selection matters, and its being reported that he will soon be losing those powers. That remains to be seen. It is widely believed he forced Mashrafee into his sudden T20 retirement during the SL series.

But I can forsee a looming war between the senior players and the coach coming up in the next 12 months. And that will only end one of two ways: premature resignation or being fired.

As far as who I would like to coach the side afterwards? I don't think it matters much provided the guy we get has zeal and passion for the job. We don't have a team full of 20 year olds anymore, so I really think the senior guys + next generation will get the ship to cruise on auto-pilot for the next 5-7 years before we enter a rebuilding phase a la Sri Lanka and Pakistan.
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Now they're seen a decent side maybe they could attract a high profile coach like Andy Flower or Stephen Fleming ??

I'd love to see how they would go under a coach of their caliber
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Kriterion_BD wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:10 am
For BD the lineup I'd like to see is:

Tamim
Soumya
Mominul
Mushfiq
Shakib
Mosaddek
Liton
Miraz
Taijul
Taskin
Mustafiz

But I fear Mominul has a slight chance of getting into the XI and Mosaddek a better shot, but still not guaranteed.
Imrul Kayes has been told to prepare to play at No. 3 in the first Test against Australia
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jaybro wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:15 am
Now they're seen a decent side maybe they could attract a high profile coach like Andy Flower or Stephen Fleming ??

I'd love to see how they would go under a coach of their caliber
I am not sure the BCB wants to spend the kind of money it would take to bring a guy like that to Bangladesh. Dhaka was recently ranked as the 4th least livable city in the world. So even if you throw the money, there is little reason for a top coach to come to BD unless they are really ambitious. Makes far more sense to coach a Pakistan and live in Dubai. According to a recent interview, Mohammad Isam, cricinfo's Bangladesh correspondent, claimed the BCB has cash reserves second only to the BCCI. By my own estimates the BCB ought to be 5th (behind BCCI, ECB, CA, PCB). We have the money to get a solid coach, and the question is do we really need one fancier than that? I am not sure. But you are right, it would be interesting to see how we do with a Andy Flower or a Gary Kirsten.
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It appears as though Mosaddek has a more serious eye infection than thought and will miss the entire Australia series.

Really hope the senior players are able to override the head coach and slot Mominul in the playing XI. Any head coach who leaves out the guy with the highest batting average in the nation's history has questionable motives, IMO.
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I can see Mominul has been left out, his form has been patchy and with the South Africa tour in mind his technique doesn't look like it will hold up against raw pace ( I could be wrong )

Also they might want to play Mushy @ 4 and keep with Liton Das

Sarker
Tamin
Imrul
Mushy
Sakib
Sabbir
Liton
Nasir/ Taijul
Mehidy
Taskin
Muzitfur

I'm a Mominul fan but I can see how he could be left out without the coach having another motive.
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jaybro wrote:
Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:05 am
I can see Mominul has been left out, his form has been patchy and with the South Africa tour in mind his technique doesn't look like it will hold up against raw pace ( I could be wrong )

Also they might want to play Mushy @ 4 and keep with Liton Das

Sarker
Tamin
Imrul
Mushy
Sakib
Sabbir
Liton
Nasir/ Taijul
Mehidy
Taskin
Muzitfur

I'm a Mominul fan but I can see how he could be left out without the coach having another motive.
Mominul's average speaks for itself. But the fact is the selection panel lied and changed their story inside 24 hrs. When the squad was initially declared, Nasir was picked as the like for like backup in case Mosaddek was unfit (both RHB, OB and slot in the middle order). Fair enough, although Mosaddek has future top order potential. Then the next day when Mominul was included the excuse was that Mosaddek is unfit so Mominul is the backup.

Now getting to the HC, Hathuri. Way back in 2014 there were reports he wanted to drop Mominul, at the time averaging 75 in first 7 Tests. Patchy form. He claimed, Mominul had technique issues, which is another lie because outside of Mushfiq and Tamim, Mominul is the next most technically correct batsmen we have, however incorrect that may be on an absolute scale. Actually he didnt say Mominul had bad technique - kind of hard to say with an average of that sort. His exact words as quoted in the paper was "unorthodox technique"...but it was said in a disparaging tone as it appeared in print.

Interestingly he has said a similar thing about Mosaddek on his debut earlier this year. "In the nets he looks like he can't hold a bat, but you see his FC average and the runs he scored here so he knows how to play." Ordinarily, that doesnt mean much, but I've seen it before and seen it usually leads to his doghouse with a black mark.

His excuse for why Imrul is the incumbent #3 and not Mominul is that Mominul only has "1 fifty in the last 6 innings". Lo and behold Imrul has 1 in the last 10. So again, Hathuri must be hiding something because that excuse doesn't hold. Besides, 6 innings isn't a large enough sample size to say anything of form. It was 6 innings across 3 different series to boot. The coach wants to replace a player averaging 47 with who averages 29. Besides, Mominul has not been dismissed by raw pace very often at all.

At any rate with the weather it appears, we may not even see 3 full sessions of play over 5 days. Aussies better hope we dont even get a toss because an abandoned match wont affect the ranking points but a 1 day draw will. :D
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