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South Africa Watch

Post by jaybro » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:01 am

Well they really seem to be at the cross roads with a mass player overhaul seemingly very near, Morkel has already announced he's done whilst Steyn keeps breaking down, Amla isn't up to batting @3 anymore, ABDV will probably quit after the WC and Duminy has already retired from tests.

The Quota system is definitely taking effect with 4 Black guys playing tests this summer whilst Zondo & Dala also played the limited overs matches, the drain of quality white players to County cricket has hurt their depth though and if we are to see Amla, ABDV, Steyn, Morkel, Duminy and maybe Philander disappear by 2019 what will the side look like and will they be competitive ???

Markram has emerged and will likely captain the side after the World Cup and De Bruyn looks to be the future No.3 despite little product so far in tests. Bavuma will likely come back into the side also but the fact the selectors disregarded the Quota target and picked De Bruyn ahead of shows they don't really think he's up to it.

Klassen showed he is a good player so we might see QDK give up the gloves at play as a specialist batsman whilst Wiaan Mulder is the allrounder they've been crying out for since Kallis retired. CSA desperately need Elgar & Faf to hang around around after the Wc if those above mentioned players do retire to try and guide these youngsters as they find their feet in Test cricket.

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Re: South Africa Watch

Post by sloandog » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:17 am

Amla is still easily one of their best batters. He's on par with ABD in my opinion still, although I will conceded that he has indeed regressed with his run scoring slightly.

Of the black cricketers who have been selected this summer, I have been very impressed with all of them. The only questionable selection was Andile in the test against India. In a side who bolstered a real battery of pace in Morkel, Morris, Rabada and Ngidi, he looked out of place and it showed. As it stands, he is certainly not there yet as a test cricketer.

Zonda, Klassen and Junior Dala have all impressed me when they've put on the green. In fact, Zonda was a refrehsing surprise as I seriously thought he was a quoate player but, as it stands, I'm impressed. He's without a doubt a better batter than Bavuma as he appears to have more shots. Also has a lot of time so certainly somebody to keep an eye on.

Somebody who I think could have slotted in well would be Rilee Rousaw. I know Abbot was a big loss at the time but the bowling stocks are now full of talent....the batting is another story. The talent is there but SA simply are not firing at the moment, so somebody like RS could have been a great option. Only now he has left does his talent appear a waste.

Muelder is certaainly an eye catching talent and I wouldn't be surprised if he makes his test debut in this series.

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Re: South Africa Watch

Post by jaybro » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:13 pm

I think Amla is suffering from the effect of father time, he may have just lost a bit in his reaction time to quality quicks. He might be able to play on longer if he moves down the order, the only issue is who bats 3 if Amla goes down? With ABDV, Faf, Bavuma etc all fighting for spots.

For me De Bruyn is the future 3
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Re: South Africa Watch

Post by sloandog » Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:12 am

This is going to be a really spicy game.
Warner is going to get some serious shit out there, and from the fans.
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Re: South Africa Watch

Post by Flakeman » Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:12 am

I love how Firdose and co have turned the Sonny Bill mask thing into a whole big story about South Africa’s deeply sexist society and how slut shaming is unacceptable. Give me a break, please !! I can’t take the lefty bullshit much longer.

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Re: South Africa Watch

Post by sloandog » Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:25 am

Rabada banned for two test matches. Serves him right. You can't go round screaming in batters faces and shoulder barging opposition players. He needs to cool it down massively if he is going to survive international cricket. He's such a good bowler it's scary, but this fiery temper is what will let him down ultimately.

Lungi Ngidi I've been very impressed with, both with his ability with ball in hand but also with his attitude and approach to the opposition. That stairwell incident was a good example. When Rabada was looking to get involved, Ngidi was passive, holding towels for De Kock and Markram.

Who do we reckon will come in for Rabada? You'd like to think that Morne Morkel will have first refusal, but the way they dropped him for this test match nothing would really suprise me.
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Re: South Africa Watch

Post by Kriterion_BD » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:49 pm

sloandog wrote:
Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:25 am
Rabada banned for two test matches. Serves him right. You can't go round screaming in batters faces and shoulder barging opposition players. He needs to cool it down massively if he is going to survive international cricket. He's such a good bowler it's scary, but this fiery temper is what will let him down ultimately.
I think the ICC goes over the top sometimes. Maybe Kohli gets preferential treatment where others' would get banned, but I haven't seen him do anything that is heinous either. Of course I don't watch everything. I think the ICC needs to give a certain amount of leeway here. If you take all the fire and emotion out of the game, its going to deaden it for spectators. The NHL allows full on brawls for Heaven's Sake.
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Re: South Africa Watch

Post by zimbos_05 » Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:19 am

sloandog wrote:
Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:25 am
Rabada banned for two test matches. Serves him right. You can't go round screaming in batters faces and shoulder barging opposition players. He needs to cool it down massively if he is going to survive international cricket. He's such a good bowler it's scary, but this fiery temper is what will let him down ultimately.
I agree that players need to control their temper, but you can't be banning certain players when the likes of Kohli and Warner get away with everything.

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Re: South Africa Watch

Post by jaybro » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:10 am

I can't see anything wrong with the punishments handed out, Rabada has form in this area and you can't let people get away with that shit on the field otherwise things will get out of control.
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