Regis Chakabva moves to Australia

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I see Chisoro is also in Australia at the moment playing club cricket.

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Someone has told me that Wellington was going as well or was at least considering it, but he arrived in Harare with the rest of the Zim squad a couple of days ago so maybe not…..yet.

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TapsC2 wrote:
Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:23 am
Googly wrote:
Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:47 am
True. There's Muyeye, Matigimu and Myers as well.

The abroad part is because a lot of folk don't quite believe we've got the local talent to step up.
Well one is a refugee, the other seems to be trying to make it in SA and the other might go down the Murray route. Sad times but you also have to want it. This goes for all of them. You have to get guys who really have the passion and want to succeed with us. If you just throw money at people who don't have the desire to want to play for us they will come and mess about for 2 years then leave.
Bullshit !!!
People forget That 1999 world cup team
Had Neil Johnson, Murray Goodwin foreign based players...
Andy Whithall and Adam Huckle were overseas players
It's high we demand winning instead of stupid rules...
Talent is what Zimbabwe needs..
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If this is retirement, I wish him all the best. Handy record and got to experience some great wins including guiding Zimbabwe to a win against Australia in Australia.

Will be very hard to replace for a couple years at least.

Additionally, gonna be hard to replace his experience on the field. One less captaincy option too

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Regis will get good experience in Australia and will probably come back as a better player. I don't think he will retire before the Qualifiers. We are reading too much into it.

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I'd say too little. Club cricket and whatever immigration opportunity that presents is going to be grabbed by a high percentage of people good enuf to get a gig.
This place is tough to survive in. Actually the survive part is do-able, but to lead a decent life in a nice house, couple of cars, decent medical, opportunities for kids etc. To pull yourself off that bottom rung is hellish hard. Usually only achievable through dodgy moves, wearing a Zanu hat and maybe a dose of luck. Getting into a first world socialist country where you get looked after is first prize.
Their bottom tier living is luxury for most of us.

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There are young guys playing here that will save some of their free lunch for later because they need to save their daily allowance. Also some managers that fail to hand over the daily allowance :lol: , think about that for a moment.
Happens at age group quite regularly.

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tej_27 wrote:
Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:14 am
A very genuine question to any Zimbabwean out here. I am not trying to instigate any race card here just asking this question out of curiosity. Suppose ZC manages to lure all three of balance, Welch and Moor (now that chakabva's future in uncertain) . In that case this is the team we might play for qualifiers ODI
1. Ballance
2. Welch
3. ervine
4. Williams
5. Raza.
6. Moor
7. Burl
8. Jongwe or Campbell (if he keeps doing well)
9. Evans
10. Ngarava
11. Muzarbani
Do you think zimbabwe can play as many as 7 whites in the team ? If it gives your best team ?
My opinion is that race quotas are intrinsically racists by definition: players are summoned upon the colour of their skin (or political view, religion, etc.) rather than their playing skill.
So I'm against quotas at top level.

Rather than quotas, a more intelligent approach is to give truly wide opportunities at grassroot level. This would be conducive not to have in the future embarassing selections based on how black or how white a player is.
Let's leave race quotas as a topic for politically correct secular bigots.

For what Italy may count in international cricket, I can bear witness that in our national squad we have just few whites with Italian ancestors. They barely speak a couple of words of Italian, all of them have never lived in Italy, they do not play in the Italian league, some of them have never been in Italy in all their life.
On the other hand we have the majority made by SL, Ind, Pak born lads who have been in Italy for over a decade, live like Italians, speak a fluent Italian with north Italian accent, play in the Italian league.
Well, being 100% Italian I prefer to be represented by these asians rather than by anonymous third generation italian migrants whose culture I have almost nothing to share with.
I wouldn't like one day to have an Italian squad with a minimum mandatory "white content".

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Googly wrote:
Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:59 am
There are young guys playing here that will save some of their free lunch for later because they need to save their daily allowance. Also some managers that fail to hand over the daily allowance :lol: , think about that for a moment.
Happens at age group quite regularly.
Aussie cricketers don’t get free lunch. Interesting parallel.

As for these visas to Australia. It has been a while since I looked at it, but the gist of it is you can qualify for it if you are an elite athlete.
It’s designed for someone like Lebron James or an NBA player playing NBL, or for marquee talent in the A-league or an English league player in the NRL and so forth.
But on paper, the qualifications include representing your country on a few occasions and on paper Tony Munyonga and Gary Ballance for example are the same. One played for England a dozen times. One player for Zimbabwe a dozen times.
To us the quality differential is chalk and cheese but to a layman this is an elite player for the number 3 country and an elite player for the number 12 country. Not huge difference in terms of visa qualifications.

So you’ll get a few mid tier players at least qualify via playing for Zim a few times and scoring a club who’s willing to do the paperwork.
Regis is actually an ideal in this sense.
A quality international number 7 who orchestrated and anchored a win against Australia! What 2 bit club with money wouldn’t want that???
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Mueddie28 wrote:
Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:39 pm
TapsC2 wrote:
Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:23 am


Well one is a refugee, the other seems to be trying to make it in SA and the other might go down the Murray route. Sad times but you also have to want it. This goes for all of them. You have to get guys who really have the passion and want to succeed with us. If you just throw money at people who don't have the desire to want to play for us they will come and mess about for 2 years then leave.
Bullshit !!!
People forget That 1999 world cup team
Had Neil Johnson, Murray Goodwin foreign based players...
Andy Whithall and Adam Huckle were overseas players
It's high we demand winning instead of stupid rules...
Talent is what Zimbabwe needs..
!!!
This so much!!!

People don't realise this. They want this high and mighty "you have to play in Zim to play for Zim" but don't realise that during our most successful period, that wasn't the case. Players do want it, but if you don't give them enough of a reason to, then you don't blame them for walking out.

It honestly makes sense to let players play overseas whilst we build up our resources and our infrastructure. They will be playing and training with world class coaches in world class facilities. It's free development for ZC.

Absolutely hate this narrative thats being peddled.

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