Regis Chakabva moves to Australia

[TapsC2]

Well one is a refugee, the other seems to be trying to make it in SA and the other might go down the Murray route. Sad times but you also have to want it. This goes for all of them. You have to get guys who really have the passion and want to succeed with us. If you just throw money at people who don't have the desire to want to play for us they will come and mess about for 2 years then leave.

Bullshit !!!
People forget That 1999 world cup team
Had Neil Johnson, Murray Goodwin foreign based players...
Andy Whithall and Adam Huckle were overseas players
It's high we demand winning instead of stupid rules...
Talent is what Zimbabwe needs..
!!!

This so much!!!

People don't realise this. They want this high and mighty "you have to play in Zim to play for Zim" but don't realise that during our most successful period, that wasn't the case. Players do want it, but if you don't give them enough of a reason to, then you don't blame them for walking out.

It honestly makes sense to let players play overseas whilst we build up our resources and our infrastructure. They will be playing and training with world class coaches in world class facilities. It's free development for ZC.

Absolutely hate this narrative thats being peddled.

Do you guys actually know the rules and conditions for you to be a full member and what it says about domestic cricket. None of those names you people mention can play in England and Australia unless they give up their contracts there. Regis can because its grade cricket but from Ballance to Cartwright to Muyeye.They are all registered as local players. So I actually don't know what you guys are on about. The only way they can play for us is to be contracted to us. It's as simple as that.

[TapsC2]

Dave Houghton clearly knows what he is doing and there is a reason why he is saying money must not be thrown around and that everyone must come and earn it. We almost lost everything the last time that happened and it didn't work out.

[secretzimbo]

There’s also the point about improving the strength of domestic cricket. We all say how terribly low quality everything is at the moment - imagine if it just became acceptable that our best players didn’t have to bother?

It depends whether you value short term success or long term development I suppose.

[ZIMDOGGY]

I’d say they can relax it to just making a token appearance.

‘You can live overseas as long as you play two domestic games a season’ which will be easy as you’ll imagine Regis will want to visit home, if he’s not touring there at the time.

Having 5 domestic teams is too much too. The sooner it’s chopped to 4 the better for game strength and cost saving.

[ZIMDOGGY]

Dave Houghton clearly knows what he is doing and there is a reason why he is saying money must not be thrown around and that everyone must come and earn it. We almost lost everything the last time that happened and it didn't work out.

Just because it didn’t work with Jarvis doesn’t mean the concept is bad.

The plain fact is most of our best players are overseas. We get them back, we are stronger.

Does anyone really regret Neil Johnson’s cameo? To me that is looked back upon as the golden days.

When they are back, they will stay if it’s best for them. Like with Neil, our retention has been terrible. Treat the players right. Pay them what they are worth. In fact pay them slightly more so you have better control over their careers and future playing pool (would be enticing for anyone who qualifies for Zim).

It’s very tempting to look for value and grab a player for unders, cheaply, but there’s no salary cap in international cricket and if playing for Zimbabwe earns itself a reputation of being lucrative everyone will either return or not leave.

There does need to be a Special development category created too to target the youth, leave the 300 dollar a month contracts to Cephas and Nyathi and let’s get a 2000 a month tier to look after the Shonkens of the country.

[secretzimbo]

I’d say they can relax it to just making a token appearance.

‘You can live overseas as long as you play two domestic games a season’ which will be easy as you’ll imagine Regis will want to visit home, if he’s not touring there at the time.

Having 5 domestic teams is too much too. The sooner it’s chopped to 4 the better for game strength and cost saving.

This is a fallacy. If you reduce the teams, guess which players won’t be getting picked for matches? The young talented deserving ones.

[Googly]

Dave Houghton clearly knows what he is doing and there is a reason why he is saying money must not be thrown around and that everyone must come and earn it. We almost lost everything the last time that happened and it didn't work out.

How did we almost lose everything?

[ZIMDOGGY]

I’d say they can relax it to just making a token appearance.

‘You can live overseas as long as you play two domestic games a season’ which will be easy as you’ll imagine Regis will want to visit home, if he’s not touring there at the time.

Having 5 domestic teams is too much too. The sooner it’s chopped to 4 the better for game strength and cost saving.

This is a fallacy. If you reduce the teams, guess which players won’t be getting picked for matches? The young talented deserving ones.

Who’s to say?
That’s a selection issue.
I think more than 4 teams, there’s room for imports, young talents, old heads etc.
There are some absolutely no name plodders that play when the comp is 5 teams and the national team is away.
In my scenario if we now allow a few players to live elsewhere it’ll be wider.

[ZIMDOGGY]

Bullshit !!!
People forget That 1999 world cup team
Had Neil Johnson, Murray Goodwin foreign based players...
Andy Whithall and Adam Huckle were overseas players
It's high we demand winning instead of stupid rules...
Talent is what Zimbabwe needs..
!!!

This so much!!!

People don't realise this. They want this high and mighty "you have to play in Zim to play for Zim" but don't realise that during our most successful period, that wasn't the case. Players do want it, but if you don't give them enough of a reason to, then you don't blame them for walking out.

It honestly makes sense to let players play overseas whilst we build up our resources and our infrastructure. They will be playing and training with world class coaches in world class facilities. It's free development for ZC.

Absolutely hate this narrative thats being peddled.

Do you guys actually know the rules and conditions for you to be a full member and what it says about domestic cricket. None of those names you people mention can play in England and Australia unless they give up their contracts there. Regis can because its grade cricket but from Ballance to Cartwright to Muyeye.They are all registered as local players. So I actually don't know what you guys are on about. The only way they can play for us is to be contracted to us. It's as simple as that.

There is no law stopping Cartwright from playing for Zimbabwe tomorrow if he wanted.

Ballance there is an England created rule of only having a couple of overseas players per team. He could do it though If he switched statuses and they gifted him a slot.

[TapsC2]

Dave Houghton clearly knows what he is doing and there is a reason why he is saying money must not be thrown around and that everyone must come and earn it. We almost lost everything the last time that happened and it didn't work out.

Just because it didn’t work with Jarvis doesn’t mean the concept is bad.

The plain fact is most of our best players are overseas. We get them back, we are stronger.

Does anyone really regret Neil Johnson’s cameo? To me that is looked back upon as the golden days.

When they are back, they will stay if it’s best for them. Like with Neil, our retention has been terrible. Treat the players right. Pay them what they are worth. In fact pay them slightly more so you have better control over their careers and future playing pool (would be enticing for anyone who qualifies for Zim).

It’s very tempting to look for value and grab a player for unders, cheaply, but there’s no salary cap in international cricket and if playing for Zimbabwe earns itself a reputation of being lucrative everyone will either return or not leave.

There does need to be a Special development category created too to target the youth, leave the 300 dollar a month contracts to Cephas and Nyathi and let’s get a 2000 a month tier to look after the Shonkens of the country.

Nobody regrets the 1999 cameos but there are 2 key differences in terms of what people are asking for. To the best of my knowledge Johnson, Goodwin and Huckle moved back to Zimbabwe. They weren't playing overseas and making cameos when needed. They were on the ground. They also didn't have promises of huge contracts when they came back to Zimbabwe.

It's a very delicate balancing act because you can create real problems with the domestic players who are slaving away. The example was imagine Ben Curran had been given a lucrative contract then he came and performed like that. What do you think would be running through someone like Kevin Kasuza's mind if he saw that?

If you are so talented and our domestic scene is as bad as people say then surely you would back yourself to come and crack the national team in a few months anyway right? I mean if you are that good and everybody else is average then why would you struggle?