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I mean really Williams. Ervine and Raza should have been allowed to retire by now. They and we need to look to the future over the next ten tests. Players like Bennett, welch, any other fast bowlers , that leg Spinner need to be looked at as the future.

Ervine needs to retire

Yeah but a serious Ngarava injury will set us back more. We don't have depth. Regardless I think he needs a rest, he has lost pace. But he has shown is a quality bowler in the past, especially in those pitches that had lateral movement

Why is that important than England bats again and that Ngarava bats. No point further injuring one of our premier bowlers

Out in 2 balls

Blessing at number 8

One thing to consider is even Raza with all his t20 experience was probably nervous for this game

One thing to consider is even Raza with all his t20 experience was probably nervous for this gane

Higgins would not be batting 9. You could bat him at 7, then the keeper at 8, then spinner at 9 and two pacers. Give the side so much more balance. The current problem we have is after the keeper no one can bat strongly. The best teams get another 50 to a 100 with the lower order/bowlers. Ngarava is...

I don't mind the reasoning of chivanga, as thats a strategic choice they've gone for the conditions to have 4 seamers. Whether he will go well is yet to see. But I'm more interested about the Wes selection as they are saying he is a better batter than welch for these conditions when welch has played...

I see your point, however, I would much rather Carlisle than most of the guys today. Carlisle was coming through a system that was developing. He didn't have the chances a lot of todays guys had, but he was a grafter. Willing to learn and apply himself. So many of the guys today just want to get by...