TEAM FOR SECOND TEST GENTS

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Re: TEAM FOR SECOND TEST GENTS

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Conant wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:02 pm
jaybro wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:33 am
Cremer has taken 28 wickets in four games

Utseya cheated and only managed 10 wickets in four games

#statsarefacts
Why are we calling Utseya a cheat. Al he had was an illegal action and so did Vtori. We might not like the former captain but I don't think slander makes us any better.
He's just upset Utseya is a better match winner for ZIM in ALL formats that Cremer.

While Cremer has been the constant and captain in everything that has gone wrong in Zim cricket lately. SL ODI win in spite of his presence too. No Test win in sight under him.

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Utseya a match winner, seriously? :lol:

Handy enough containing bowler in limited overs but he simply didn't take enough wickets. His career bowling strike rates are proof of this.
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pariah wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:10 pm
Conant wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:02 pm
jaybro wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:33 am
Cremer has taken 28 wickets in four games

Utseya cheated and only managed 10 wickets in four games

#statsarefacts
Why are we calling Utseya a cheat. Al he had was an illegal action and so did Vtori. We might not like the former captain but I don't think slander makes us any better.
He's just upset Utseya is a better match winner for ZIM in ALL formats that Cremer.

While Cremer has been the constant and captain in everything that has gone wrong in Zim cricket lately. SL ODI win in spite of his presence too. No Test win in sight under him.
Cremer is a superior bowling and batsman to Utseya

In every format Cremer is statistically better than Utseya this has been proven many times, in fact I also proved Raza is also a superior ODI bowler compared to Utseya yet Hhm Chose to ignore my post.

It doesn’t matter how much you like or dis-like Utseya the facts are UNDENIABLE Utseya was an off spin bowler he always was, his action was found to be illegal ( not just one particular delivery every delivery)

In the laws of cricket ‘chucking’ is illegal so if you were to chuck you would be cheating hence Utseya was cheating so he is a cheat.

The fact he wasn’t able to fix his action and could only bowl medium pace just proved the only way he was able to compete was to cheat.

I’m sorry but those are the cold hard facts.
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Cremer's stats are superior to Utseya's in every format, except for tests where Utseya's sample size is very small. Utseya's ODI average is pushing 50, hardly matchwinning stuff there, whereas Cremer comes in close to 30. For someone who like stats, pariah is very wayward here, his descent into embarrassing trolling continues. I was glad that pariah had returned to ZCF as he always cultivated lively discussion even if I often disagreed with him. Disappointing that he is using his latest incarnation to all-out troll.
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Zero76 wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:12 pm
Utseya a match winner, seriously? :lol:
We're going around in circles and wasting each other's time.

This fact was proven not too long ago, and the losers resorted to character asasination of Utseya.

Kriterion learnt valuable lessons about ZIM cricket from that exercise.

The logic is very simple, if Cremer truly was a matchwinner, then why has Zim been losing instead of winning, plus sunk to embarrassing depths? Why was he carried by everyone else as Zim beat SL in SL?

Zim won big with Utseya minus Cremer+Jarvis. What has Cremer won minus Utseya?

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Zimbabwe suffered some rather large losses with Utseya in the team also, so what is your point? Head-to-head, Cremer is the superior player, the stats prove this.
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Please Hhm stop avoiding the points put forward to you

- Utseya is a proven cheater

- Raza is a superior ODI bowler to Utseya

- Cremer is a superior bowler to Utseya statistically

- Cremer is a better captain than Utseya ( first captain to lead an ODI series victory over Sri Lanka in SL )
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pariah wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:25 pm
Zero76 wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:12 pm
Utseya a match winner, seriously? :lol:
We're going around in circles and wasting each other's time.
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Second Test in Bulawayo, probably the last five day test Zimbabwe will be playing.

As they will be playing four day test in tier 2 system, with boxing day test against Proteas as a trial.

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i think that we need chamu back to open with Hami and let solly drop down lower the order, but seeing the solly/hami combination is good chamu will do in the middle order to stabilise the innings

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