Shumba is an interesting omission from these matches, surely he would have benefitted from playing?
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Following on from Googly's post, I am curious to know how much do these guys actually train?
I'd think for a batsman you need to be in the nets every day, facing as many balls as possible. But IIRC it doesn't sound like there are any bowling machines in Zimbabwe, so you'd have to find net bowlers or a coach to do throw downs every day.
I'd think for a batsman you need to be in the nets every day, facing as many balls as possible. But IIRC it doesn't sound like there are any bowling machines in Zimbabwe, so you'd have to find net bowlers or a coach to do throw downs every day.
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They've got bowling machines at the performance hub place next to OGs but only a lucky few go there. Your average franchise player in Zim never sees one, unless maybe they do a club stint in the UK.
I think you can get them for a few thousand dollars or so nowadays - thats not a lot of money to ZC now we are getting our full ICC grant again. Surely we can afford some? I suppose the problem is where do you put them where they wont get broken or most likely stolen.....
As for training, I think this varies massively between players. The franchises do train a for bit together between matches during the main Logan Cup season. If there is a 4 day break between first class games they will generally train on 2 of them, although attendance can be mixed.
Outside of that and in the off season it really depends. Some guys have to do other jobs in the winter so can't train.
Lots of the guys just do their own thing and organise their own nets when they can. The nets at HSC are always fairly busy as far as I know, with national and franchise players netting. Not sure about elsewhere but I assume some guys go to OH/Taka/Alex or wherever sometimes.
We have a lot of very lazy players in the system, and their performances often correlate.
On the other hand there are guys who are desperate to improve. Reggie Chakabva lived at HSC - he was there morning noon and night. Milton Shumba (he's picked up an injury in the T20s last week), is known to train very hard very regularly.
Williams is the weird one. Never really trains (or plays) but just has the ability to turn up in an international series having not picked up a bat for a month and automatically score runs
He's a freak!
I think you can get them for a few thousand dollars or so nowadays - thats not a lot of money to ZC now we are getting our full ICC grant again. Surely we can afford some? I suppose the problem is where do you put them where they wont get broken or most likely stolen.....
As for training, I think this varies massively between players. The franchises do train a for bit together between matches during the main Logan Cup season. If there is a 4 day break between first class games they will generally train on 2 of them, although attendance can be mixed.
Outside of that and in the off season it really depends. Some guys have to do other jobs in the winter so can't train.
Lots of the guys just do their own thing and organise their own nets when they can. The nets at HSC are always fairly busy as far as I know, with national and franchise players netting. Not sure about elsewhere but I assume some guys go to OH/Taka/Alex or wherever sometimes.
We have a lot of very lazy players in the system, and their performances often correlate.
On the other hand there are guys who are desperate to improve. Reggie Chakabva lived at HSC - he was there morning noon and night. Milton Shumba (he's picked up an injury in the T20s last week), is known to train very hard very regularly.
Williams is the weird one. Never really trains (or plays) but just has the ability to turn up in an international series having not picked up a bat for a month and automatically score runs

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Thats not quite true, SZ.
The indoor (The Hub) is completely accessible to everyone.
Alistair Campbell runs it, or perhaps his son is more hands on. What they want is for pro's to use it. I think the charge is about $5 which does not cover the electricity (when there is electricity
) and maintenance and ball replacement There are some quality throwers there that you negotiate with and will probably throw their arms off for another $5.
You bring a partner and it's $2.50
Zimbos have a bad habit of wanting free shit and wonder why the free stuff is not decent quality. It's sad.
During the rains when most practice facilities were waterlogged it was telling that virtually the only guys using it regularly were the overseas pro's.
A pro will take a grass net over an indoor every time. What we lack here are decent grass nets. The only ones in Harare are at HSC and they're over used and oversubscribed. You have the national guys there, the ladies and the u19's, plus most of the franchises when theyre preparing for a game. It's hard to continually have 3 or 4 strips prepared daily. If they're too tricky you'll find the good batters will only want to use them now and then because you can undo some good stuff and of course you get hit. Facing spin is obviously fine, but the fast stuff can get really ugly.
I'm not sure which of our batters have a daily regime. I'd be very interested to know.
The indoor (The Hub) is completely accessible to everyone.
Alistair Campbell runs it, or perhaps his son is more hands on. What they want is for pro's to use it. I think the charge is about $5 which does not cover the electricity (when there is electricity

You bring a partner and it's $2.50

During the rains when most practice facilities were waterlogged it was telling that virtually the only guys using it regularly were the overseas pro's.
A pro will take a grass net over an indoor every time. What we lack here are decent grass nets. The only ones in Harare are at HSC and they're over used and oversubscribed. You have the national guys there, the ladies and the u19's, plus most of the franchises when theyre preparing for a game. It's hard to continually have 3 or 4 strips prepared daily. If they're too tricky you'll find the good batters will only want to use them now and then because you can undo some good stuff and of course you get hit. Facing spin is obviously fine, but the fast stuff can get really ugly.
I'm not sure which of our batters have a daily regime. I'd be very interested to know.
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I really would have thought Burl and Kaia would actually have been keen to play those 3 day matches. I understand the fast bowlers and the senior citizens not wanting to play but not them
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Some of the bowlers did well. Seems like the likes of Masuku might actually be decent. They held their own
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Masuku is very decent. Leading Logan cup wicket taker in 2 of the past 4 seasons I think? He’s good. Relies on helpful conditions though
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20 20 matches tomorrow
Hopefully the likes of Kaia Burl williams and ballance and ervine play to bolster the batting.
Stick in zhuwayo as well. Lets see if he can do it against a quality attack
Hopefully the likes of Kaia Burl williams and ballance and ervine play to bolster the batting.
Stick in zhuwayo as well. Lets see if he can do it against a quality attack
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Ya I agree. If they do some homework on how to bowl at Cephas (they work it out in 3 balls anyway) he will be kept quiet. I'd love to see him launch a few though.
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20 20 squad
NORTHERNS: Akram Faraz, Dzikiti Tawanda, Gumbie Joylord, Madhevere Wessly, Makoni Tanunurwa, Marumani Tadiwanashe, Masakadza Shingirai, Mayavo Nyasha, Mpofu Nkosana, Mumba Carl, Munyonga Tony, Ndlovu Ainsley, Ngarava Richard, Nyauchi Victor
SOUTHERNS: Bennett Brian, Campbell Johnathan, Chatara Tendai, Chivanga Tanaka, Falao Alex, Jaure Keith, Jongwe Luke, Kaia Innocent, Kaia Roy, Madande Clive, Masuku Ernest, Mavuta Brandon, Musekiwa Tashinga, Mutumbami Richmond, Zhuwao Cephas
NORTHERNS: Akram Faraz, Dzikiti Tawanda, Gumbie Joylord, Madhevere Wessly, Makoni Tanunurwa, Marumani Tadiwanashe, Masakadza Shingirai, Mayavo Nyasha, Mpofu Nkosana, Mumba Carl, Munyonga Tony, Ndlovu Ainsley, Ngarava Richard, Nyauchi Victor
SOUTHERNS: Bennett Brian, Campbell Johnathan, Chatara Tendai, Chivanga Tanaka, Falao Alex, Jaure Keith, Jongwe Luke, Kaia Innocent, Kaia Roy, Madande Clive, Masuku Ernest, Mavuta Brandon, Musekiwa Tashinga, Mutumbami Richmond, Zhuwao Cephas