Zimbabwe vs South Africa / 1st T20 / Tri-Series / Harare

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Googly wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 7:23 am
So I got some low-down on Cremer this morning.
He bowled at our national guys in the nets apparently, and bowled well. Its clear he's contemplating throwing his name in the hat. Pretty gob-smacking really.
If he hasn't lost anything he's likely to be our best leggie.
He was a decent batsman as well, dunno if he faced Blessing for a couple of overs to clear the cobwebs :lol:

You have to question the value he brings. I mean he's about to turn 40 :lol: Providing he's as good as he was before he potentially brings value for the T20 WC but then surely he hits his expiry date before the 2027 WC.

Where would he slot in? If theyre prepared to entertain the idea then surely my Codger Eleven should also be considered :lol: He wouldn't make that side though.
Only in Zimbabwe does a 39 yr old who no longer plays cricket, living in dubai wake up and decide he might go play for the zim team lol.

Remember though a few years back he did play some arab t10 or t20 league and he got absolutely smashed.

Of course, if he is anywhere near the 32 year old Cremer, he is an absolute asset. He was really coming good, but with leggies its hard, you need to tune it.
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Googly wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 10:57 pm
tawac wrote:
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Googly wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 6:12 pm
I see what they see in Nyamhuri, huge potential. But he sprays it and there should be guys ahead of him. Blessing is likely out on compassionate grounds so he may well get a start. Should be Maphosa, well Evans actually, but we know they want a Maphaka wannabe. I'm not sure why they have not considering Chivanga either.
Where I would invite you to clarify is your thoughts on identifying talent and running with them over stats vs when the opposite is true.

You're a huge advocate on backing the players that can make it over players with a lower ceiling, but players like Nyamhuri arent ready.

I know exactly what you mean when you say this, because he is too raw and too young, but I know there are small minded people here that will pick this apart and attack you.
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I can't believe I am reading that Graeme Cremer is potentially back in the mix. I mean, he was easily our best leg spinner (ever), but I would rather invest is Vin. Yes he got a walloping but he clearly rips it, which is priceless. I'd rather have Cremer as the spin coach or at the very least some type of consultant for him. I know he's at Unu but if Myers, Bawa (no doubt) and Wez get the red carpet treatment, so should Schonken. Proper bowler and probably has slight more control.

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I assumed he was here as a spinning coach or to offer some advice to Vincent.

Can’t see him making a comeback though. As zimdoggy said, he got smashed.

The worry would be how much T20 has changed since the last time he played.

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sloandog wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:32 am
I can't believe I am reading that Graeme Cremer is potentially back in the mix. I mean, he was easily our best leg spinner (ever),
Hold up....Cremer is NOT our best leg spinner ever.
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ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 9:44 am
sloandog wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:32 am
I can't believe I am reading that Graeme Cremer is potentially back in the mix. I mean, he was easily our best leg spinner (ever),
Hold up....Cremer is NOT our best leg spinner ever.
He absolutely was. Better than Strang

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Hope Cremer coming as a spin consultant. Bringing another 40 year old to the team is a disaster thinking for me.

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Is ZC conducts YoYo test for selection?

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sloandog wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:39 am
ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 9:44 am
sloandog wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:32 am
I can't believe I am reading that Graeme Cremer is potentially back in the mix. I mean, he was easily our best leg spinner (ever),
Hold up....Cremer is NOT our best leg spinner ever.
He absolutely was. Better than Strang
By every USEFUL metric Strang is better.

36 bowling average against much better opposition than Cremers 45 in tests.

Even in batting, 27 vs 16.

Cremer has slightly better ODI average (30 v 33) but Strang never had the luxury of constant games vs Ireland and Afg to help that.
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sloandog wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:39 am
ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 9:44 am
sloandog wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:32 am
I can't believe I am reading that Graeme Cremer is potentially back in the mix. I mean, he was easily our best leg spinner (ever),
Hold up....Cremer is NOT our best leg spinner ever.
He absolutely was. Better than Strang
Disagree , Strang the best ever

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