Sean Williams

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Drugs are a massive issue here in Zimbabwe. We've traditionally been marijuana users because it's cheap and locally grown, but that has changed. Mozambique, Zimbabwe and SA are staging posts for drugs into Europe. In SA half the police force and a few politicians are part of cartels. Not sure why it would be too different here. Mugabe Jr was arrested just recently with more than his fair share.

It's all about humans' desire to experience an altered state of consciousness. The range of drugs available to the youth at outings is astonishing for a Third World country, it's a smorgasborg of fun and disaster.

Smoking a joint is a lot cheaper than getting shit faced on booze as well. That's why it will hopefully remain the drug of choice for those so inclined. The cheap alternatives have dire consequences and for sure they're coming our way.

The number of folk that have died from bad coke in Zim is astonishing. Coke cut with all manner of things and topped up with a stimulant like ephedrine to give the illusion of coke but kills you easily. Know your dealer! :lol:

The pressures of cricket are immense. Unless you find a way of coping with them the good old mary jane gives you some respite from worrying about the consequences of failure and from a very average life if you're on an unliveable salary.

Marijuana use is prevalent amongst cricketers here. The two guys who were given a ban here was merely an internal warning because they are PONI's.

In UK they do hair follicle testing. Drugs are detectable for much longer than a blood or urine test. If they were strong on testing franchise players I suspect the results would be alarming. If you're a casual user most drugs flush in 24-48 hours, but the hair follicle test will get you. The number of prescription drugs on the banned list is huge as well.

I wouldn't be keen to face 140 after smoking a joint :lol:, it's not performance enhancing :lol:

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Depends on the strand, you really can be seeing it clearly like a beach ball :lol:

Then what next without that 5K a month from next year for the next 25 years? What do folks do outside cricket? I see Sean Ervine is starting some cricket clinics, and seems like Craig sells some apparel as a side gig, Campbell is into Blueberries now, then the Titan, Ken Sharpe :lol:

But what really is next? Likes of Ray Price, Waller, etc. Because for the likes of Chatara, Chisoro and the likes it’s naturally going to be really tough after cricket. Quite sad.

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Re: Sean Williams

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CholeZimbo wrote:
Wed Nov 05, 2025 6:02 am
They could have just asked AI to help them.



Statement from Zimbabwe Cricket

Zimbabwe Cricket acknowledges that Sean Williams has played a distinguished role in our national cricket team over many years. From his international debut in 2005, he has been a mainstay of our batting and his contributions—both in the field and in leadership—have helped shape the spirit of Zimbabwean cricket.

We would like to highlight a few key moments in his career:
• His century of 154 in a Test match in December 2024, which underlined his quality and endurance at the highest level.
• His status as one of our most experienced international players, having appeared in Tests, ODIs and T20s over a career spanning more than two decades. 
• His resilience through difficult periods—supporting the team through seasons of challenge and representing Zimbabwe on the global stage.

At the same time, we must address recent developments with full transparency. During an internal review, it was disclosed that Mr Williams has been experiencing a personal struggle with drug addiction and that he has voluntarily entered a rehabilitation programme. This situation emerged in the context of his unavailability and withdrawal from selection on multiple occasions—conditions that have impacted team planning and performance.

Given the seriousness of these disclosures and the need to maintain professional, ethical and anti-doping standards within our organisation, Zimbabwe Cricket has determined that Mr Williams will not be considered for future national selection and that his central contract will not be renewed upon its expiry at the end of December 2025.

We want to express publicly our profound gratitude to Sean for his long service, his achievements and his role in representing Zimbabwe. His highs and lows reflect both the potential and the pressures of international sport. We also want to emphasise our support for him as he embarks on his recovery journey.

Zimbabwe Cricket stands committed to the welfare of our players, to upholding integrity, and to learning from this experience so that our systems, culture and support mechanisms are strengthened for the future.

We wish Sean Williams every success in his rehabilitation, his future endeavours beyond cricket, and trust that his legacy will be remembered not only for runs and centuries, but also for the lessons his career provides.

— Zimbabwe Cricket
Ya that was a hatchet job and should have been handled a lot better. It's worth dissecting. Sean's past indiscretions are largely known. He's been almost indispensable and he's been given some latitude. He's not the only one, there are many others, but he's high profile and of course he's outspoken, in bursts.
It's not completely clear what the circumstances were. It just says he withdrew at the last minute and that triggered an "internal investigation."
One would suspect he'd been on a binge and feared or suspected an ICC test was possible/probable.
One can't refuse an ICC drugs test because the repercussions are big, but probably not as big, if one boxes smartly, as failing one. Right up to that point the situation was easily retrievable. Then something big went down.

This latest mess being the "last straw" is what is interesting, disappointing and sad.
Clearly there are a number of factors-
1. It would suggest he doesn't have the backing of Sammonds or Raza or a couple of other senior players. Sammonds would not have taken his 11th hour withdrawal well and one would assume he's also under a lot of pressure? Sammonds of course is under no obligation to cover for Williams, I'm not suggesting that, but it would most certainly indicate they at best they only had a professional relationship.
2. It would indicate there was a big blow out where a lot was said that couldn't be retrieved.
3. ZC have been lenient with him in the past, so what made this the last straw? By the way, that's also a 2 way street after 20 years of having a thorough knowledge of the machinations of ZC and all the dirt on a lot of players. The stories he could tell! One has to be a little careful throwing rocks in a glass house.
3. With Taylor as a "replacement" and potentially Knackers, Curran, Ervine and Welch now being on the peripherary, the hierarchy would definitely believe they don't need to be as tolerant. That unofficial quota firmly exists, take poison on that. They gave it up in one format which nobody watches, but its not a good look for them in a televised world cup.

My takeaway is this-
ZC are not under any obligation to look after players' mental states. They have looked after him and many others in the past, I'll most certainly give them that, but they've also burned a few guys. They give and they take, much like any other board.

Something really nasty went down that they have burned him in this fashion, and probably not just the hierarchy. Cricket is a nasty business. When you're down people will often settle old scores.

Should they have covered for him? That answer would be influenced by what was said when he dropped that bombshell and tempers were running hot.
I'd have said yes, he is our best player and has basically been part of the furniture for 2 decades and almost deserved to go out on his own terms....and our team is shite. The guy is a flawed legend.
What I find really wrong is that when everyone had cooled down and in the cold light of day they have chosen to release him in such a poor way.

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Re: Sean Williams

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CholeZimbo wrote:
Wed Nov 05, 2025 7:12 am
Depends on the strand, you really can be seeing it clearly like a beach ball :lol:

Then what next without that 5K a month from next year for the next 25 years? What do folks do outside cricket? I see Sean Ervine is starting some cricket clinics, and seems like Craig sells some apparel as a side gig, Campbell is into Blueberries now, then the Titan, Ken Sharpe :lol:

But what really is next? Likes of Ray Price, Waller, etc. Because for the likes of Chatara, Chisoro and the likes it’s naturally going to be really tough after cricket. Quite sad.
Its a disastrous situation. You have to have a plan B. If you play "pro" cricket for 10-20 years here you are equipped to do the square root of fuck all when you retire or get ousted.
I heard Shardendorf Jr has quit entirely and used his spare time in the UK to become a qualified electrician. Now there's a smart young man. There's no future here, you're chasing a dream. The only dream is IPL. Not happening.

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If i speak people don't listen. I will leave you to speculate.

Hope you guys are having a good day and the preparing for the festive jollifications, spare a baddie or two for me i will be in town in December!
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Here he is

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jontym87 wrote:
Wed Nov 05, 2025 3:05 pm
If i speak people don't listen. I will leave you to speculate.

Hope you guys are having a good day and the preparing for the festive jollifications, spare a baddie or two for me i will be in town in December!
Aah a teaser. I listen.

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jontym87 wrote:
Wed Nov 05, 2025 3:05 pm
If i speak people don't listen. I will leave you to speculate.

Hope you guys are having a good day and the preparing for the festive jollifications, spare a baddie or two for me i will be in town in December!
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Re: Sean Williams

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jontym87 wrote:
Wed Nov 05, 2025 3:05 pm
If i speak people don't listen. I will leave you to speculate.

Hope you guys are having a good day and the preparing for the festive jollifications, spare a baddie or two for me i will be in town in December!
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