Williams was roped in after outcry

[TapsC]

the Zim problem is very complex for me.Too many influencing factors but for me seeing someone like Vusi getting out to the same shot for the last 15 years has to make you question what is going on in his head. if there is one lesson this whole sad episode of ZC has taught me is that experience does not always make players better. Cricket is a unique sport for me because a lot of the game requires a certain level of intelligence to understand what your role has to be in very specific situations. the natural talent for me is there in some of these players like Elton, Hami and Vusi but game awareness and intelligence(which has nothing to do with their intelligence off the pitch) just simply isn't there. this is why we never see any consistency from them, just flashes of brilliance.

[foreignfield]

the Zim problem is very complex for me.Too many influencing factors but for me seeing someone like Vusi getting out to the same shot for the last 15 years has to make you question what is going on in his head. if there is one lesson this whole sad episode of ZC has taught me is that experience does not always make players better. Cricket is a unique sport for me because a lot of the game requires a certain level of intelligence to understand what your role has to be in very specific situations. the natural talent for me is there in some of these players like Elton, Hami and Vusi but game awareness and intelligence(which has nothing to do with their intelligence off the pitch) just simply isn't there. this is why we never see any consistency from them, just flashes of brilliance.

I think the main factor is the small talent pool. In other countries players who cannot turn talent into results consistently are simply flushed out of the system earlier.

[Kriterion_BD]

the Zim problem is very complex for me.Too many influencing factors but for me seeing someone like Vusi getting out to the same shot for the last 15 years has to make you question what is going on in his head. if there is one lesson this whole sad episode of ZC has taught me is that experience does not always make players better. Cricket is a unique sport for me because a lot of the game requires a certain level of intelligence to understand what your role has to be in very specific situations. the natural talent for me is there in some of these players like Elton, Hami and Vusi but game awareness and intelligence(which has nothing to do with their intelligence off the pitch) just simply isn't there. this is why we never see any consistency from them, just flashes of brilliance.

I think the main factor is the small talent pool. In other countries players who cannot turn talent into results consistently are simply flushed out of the system earlier.

Yeah, barring exceptional players, all other sides have a significant player turnover every 3-4 years because not every player has the talent + mental capability to succeed at the highest level consistently. Zimbabwe has a high turnover except that every 3-4 years the same players from 3-4 years ago come back. Examples being Chibhaba in 2015, Chigumbura every 6 months, and Vusi every 12 months. Thats not turnover its just recycling the same product.

[watermelon]

Sean Williams is on borrowed time anyway. He can't cut it in Zimbabwe, I predict he will be trying his luck in the UK before long. When was the last time he played a meaningful innings against a worldclass bowling attack.

-watermelon.

[Conant]

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Oh please Kriterion you know ridiculous you sound? If that was the case 70 % of us here on the forums, if I can pound our own drum, would be playing for the national team.

Its natural ability, RESOURCES, practice - that goes without saying. Many excellent cricketers including some Australians can hardly string a coherent sentence together and still you insist on 90% of cricket being about brains? Come on. Your common adage is wrong.

I know you like being pompous and all knowing sometimes, of which I don't begrudge you; but in your eagerness to prop up our vocal Zimdoggy and Eugene, and paint Zimbo cricketers as a bunch of dullards, you have only managed to build a vain argument where substance is required.

Everyone in America knows that sports is 90% from the head up. That doesn't mean Kobe Bryant or Lebron James would be winning Noble prizes in Literature. However it means they are students of their games and know the ins and outs of it as good as anyone else does. They could still make lousy coaches, because being a coach is more about man management, etc. However any great player would make a fantastic consultant in their respective speciality. Kobe in how to be a more assertive scoring option, Lebron in how to be an overall team player. Of course that doesn't mean you or I could be the next Black Mamba but that those guys have a good academic understanding of their game.

One does not get the same vibe from a Hamilton or a Vusi or an Elton or a Panyangara. I am not suggesting that they are players of fantastic talent, but I am suggesting that they are achieving less than their natural ability precisely because they either cannot or don't care to understand the game. Elton after 200 ODIs should know when he needs to step on the gas pedal. Hamilton after 150 matches should know to ground his bat when running between the wickets. Panyangara and Chatara should know that bowling length balls at the death will get you punished. Vusi should know after 100+ caps that hooking the ball in the air with 5 men at deep square leg is a very stupid thing to do.

Afghanistan has about 10% the resources that Zimbabwe gets, yet their players are able to make enough adjustments to come from 2-1 down or whatever to tie or win a series against Zimbabwe, home and away.

I don't know how smart Taylor was, and can't comment on Williams, although SW seems to be about as sharp as a wagon wheel. But Cremer does seem to be a vast improvement over Chigumbura's captaincy.

Thanks for the response, Kriterion.

[saifulsohel05]

Sean Williams is on borrowed time anyway. He can't cut it in Zimbabwe, I predict he will be trying his luck in the UK before long. When was the last time he played a meaningful innings against a worldclass bowling attack.

-watermelon.

What's is the role of matumbabi in zI'm team then? U guys are racist against white. No wonder, tgey are leaving zim.

[watermelon]

Mutumbami is a crap quota player, I don't need some subcontinent fool pointing that out to me.

-watermelon.