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One effect of this, I think, is we'll probably start seeing more Zimbos turning out for hitherto unknown cricket countries as Watambwa did for Belgium sometime back.

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strikerlube wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:03 am

Wrong NZ won't go anywhere. No way SL will either
I certainly hope I'm wrong. The current NZ side are extremely entertaining to watch. But they have been cutting Test matches left and right. Cricket is just not feasible in a country as small as NZ. That is why the wealthier boards have to give some money as charity in the form of the newly revised ICC financial model or a Test fund.

SL are in a similar situation...why do you think they play a series vs India every other month? SL cricket is probably even less profitable than Afghan cricket at this stage. The BCCI's good graces are keeping them afloat.
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How many countries actually make money or break even hosting a test series? Thats the real question. If it costs us 1 million for 2 tests how much are SA or NZ paying? Thats the real question. Its not about the exciting games but more about the finiancial viability.

When was the last time we even won a test? 2013? Thats half a decade guys. Worst part about is that we dont even have the worst record after 100 tests. Its just not a viable format. If 2 tests cost a million that means Ireland would need to play 50 million dollars worth of test cricket to win just 11 games if they follow the average. Its not worth it.

Thw boxing day test showed the gap.

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TapsC wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:45 pm
How many countries actually make money or break even hosting a test series? Thats the real question. If it costs us 1 million for 2 tests how much are SA or NZ paying? Thats the real question. Its not about the exciting games but more about the finiancial viability.

When was the last time we even won a test? 2013? Thats half a decade guys. Worst part about is that we dont even have the worst record after 100 tests. Its just not a viable format. If 2 tests cost a million that means Ireland would need to play 50 million dollars worth of test cricket to win just 11 games if they follow the average. Its not worth it.

Thw boxing day test showed the gap.
SL, NZ, WI lose money playing Tests against anyone other than the Big 3. The Big 3 probably make a profit playing anyone, or at least anyone in the top 6. Maybe they just break even or turn a tiny profit playing the likes of Bangladesh or West Indies. I am sure South Africa also only make money playing the Big 3.

PAK, BD, AFG make a killing when playing the Big 3, and would probably make enough profit to get by playing anyone else. Its all about sponsors, whether domestic or international and with their giant populations (BD and PAK) and fanatic supporters (all 3 countries), I can't see them NOT making at least some cash against any team in the top 9.

The Irish would most likely be in the same position. This is probably why every country wants a T20 league...so they can get out of the red when everything is totaled.
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The real question is why does it cost $500k to play a Test match.
Presumably we sell the media rights to a series, so we shouldn't be paying to have cameras and media equipment, etc.

Accomodation, food, ground preparation, etc are the things we can't get around, but that shouldn't cost half a million.

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brmtaylor.com admin wrote:
Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:01 am
The real question is why does it cost $500k to play a Test match.
Presumably we sell the media rights to a series, so we shouldn't be paying to have cameras and media equipment, etc.

Accomodation, food, ground preparation, etc are the things we can't get around, but that shouldn't cost half a million.
Yup. That is indeed the right question to ask.

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Hospitality tents and hookers for the hierarchy costs money.

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Oh and team transport is at least 100k :lol:
DJ 100k :lol: :lol:
New music 50k :lol:
My hope and enthusiasm is fading. We’re not getting rid of these bastions of business, these pillars of our community, unless they lose the election. Institutionalized pillage and rape with the people in waiting panting for their turn at the trough :lol: The players have mostly indicated they’re ok with it as well.

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brmtaylor.com admin wrote:
Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:01 am
The real question is why does it cost $500k to play a Test match.
Presumably we sell the media rights to a series, so we shouldn't be paying to have cameras and media equipment, etc.

Accomodation, food, ground preparation, etc are the things we can't get around, but that shouldn't cost half a million.
Please!!! ZC does not even have a sponsor that actually pays them any cash. What makes you think they would do something like sell media rights? I have come to the conclusion that the vast majority, if not all, of ZC have no clue how to run cricket and certainly not on a commercial basis.

The sad reality is, if this continues, countries that are less well resourced talent-wise, such as Netherlands, Ireland, Singapore etc, but more organised and commercially sound, will start to outperform Zimbabwe. Very sad. I'm just praying the elections will in some way help to make a change for the better.

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brmtaylor.com admin wrote:
Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:01 am

Accomodation, food, ground preparation, etc are the things we can't get around, but that shouldn't cost half a million.
Even with discount rates that I'm sure every board negotiates, a 3 or 4 star hotel in most countries would run $150 USD per night. Factor 6 nights for a 5-day Test, thats 900 per room. You need 15 rooms just for players. Then another 10-12 rooms for coaches, analysts, physios, managers, trainers, etc. So you are looking at 23,000 just for hotel rooms for one team. You then have the home side who needs the same 23,000. Then you have any other dignitaries that might in attendence. You need 4-5 rooms for umpires. So thats an even 50K right there.

Food at 10 bucks per person per day x3 meals = 1500 dollars. Not much there, but thats not a lot of food. You have remember these are pro athletes and they have strict diet requirements (high protein, low fat, veg for Indians, etc).

Ground staff. My guess is it takes at least 50 men to get the grounds, dressing rooms, in order. They probably don't make much especially in the developing nations, but it adds up to maybe 5-10K over 5 days. Much more than that in England, AUS, NZ.

Most teams don't actually own the grounds they play in. Some of them lease them. So there's the rental price. That will be expensive. Then you have utilities. Water mostly for a Test since floodlights aren't used. Then there's insurance fees. Taxes and surcharges.

Then the fee you have to pay the touring side. Probably a 200K per match. So now we can get close to half a million.
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