I know for some people it is really really difficult to admit or recognise a single positive thing in Zim cricket, because we all wanted this board to fail - some of us actively fought it.
But some people blindly saying nothing has improved and things are as bad as ever are blind. That's not to say everything is perfect. There remains countless issues and there remains so much work to be done.
But you can't blindly go around pretending it's still 2019 either, no matter how bitter you may be.
True. I liked how in Raza's interview he made it clear nobody is owed money by ZC. A lot has changed. People are not leaving because of money issues. It will take a long time to fix 15 years of abuse but we are on the right track and a lot has changed for the better. A lot but its only been for a few years. We will need maybe another 10 years of the right things being done for us to create a strong system all the way through. It finally clicked that if the right things are being done people can turn a blind eye to a lot of other things.
When you're expecting the same bunch of people to have undergone a transformation you're in miracle territory
For sure they've paid a bit more attention to cricket and the last couple of years have been better, but I think we're seeing the absolute pinnacle of their administrative abilities
Yeah pretty Big blow to lose Ballance. And very strange circumstances.
Qualifying ahead of one of SL and WI was about a 50-50 proposition. I don’t really think those odds have changed. Ballance may be a good player but I don’t think his absence will leave that kind of hole that can’t be filled or at least papered over in ODIs. He’s not an impact player like Taylor, Williams, or Raza. He’s more like a Craig Ervine.
I know for some people it is really really difficult to admit or recognise a single positive thing in Zim cricket, because we all wanted this board to fail - some of us actively fought it.
But some people blindly saying nothing has improved and things are as bad as ever are blind. That's not to say everything is perfect. There remains countless issues and there remains so much work to be done.
But you can't blindly go around pretending it's still 2019 either, no matter how bitter you may be.
True. I liked how in Raza's interview he made it clear nobody is owed money by ZC. A lot has changed. People are not leaving because of money issues. It will take a long time to fix 15 years of abuse but we are on the right track and a lot has changed for the better. A lot but its only been for a few years. We will need maybe another 10 years of the right things being done for us to create a strong system all the way through. It finally clicked that if the right things are being done people can turn a blind eye to a lot of other things.
When you're expecting the same bunch of people to have undergone a transformation you're in miracle territory
For sure they've paid a bit more attention to cricket and the last couple of years have been better, but I think we're seeing the absolute pinnacle of their administrative abilities
Ya absolutely. Strong chance they will mess everything up at some stage All the more reason to enjoy the relatively good times whilst we have them though
I know for some people it is really really difficult to admit or recognise a single positive thing in Zim cricket, because we all wanted this board to fail - some of us actively fought it.
But some people blindly saying nothing has improved and things are as bad as ever are blind. That's not to say everything is perfect. There remains countless issues and there remains so much work to be done.
But you can't blindly go around pretending it's still 2019 either, no matter how bitter you may be.
My brother, no one is bitter here. What’s there to be bitter about since you assuming I’m bitter. FYI, I help Zimbabwe Cricket through a company I consult for. They outsource data analytics and happens I get tasked to do that as in familiar with the organisation.
No one addressed issues about the board. I’m sure you’ve never heard me commenting about the board at all because I don’t give a fuck about that board. They don’t play cricket, do they? Are they the executive, no they are not. See where you problem is ‘you fought for the board’ what were you fighting for? What was your interest in doing so? Are they incapable of fighting their own battles? If they need you then they are failures but that’s story for another day.
We have an executive with Director of Cricket who had and still jas no strategic plan for development of cricket in Zimbabwe. He reached his creaking as a player got no clue whatsoever in management. Every cricket board out have their strategic plans on public. Have you ever seen one for Zim cricket? I will put the Executive and players to task, the board tried to put Hamilton to task at some point and it went quiet after a while.
Yeah pretty Big blow to lose Ballance. And very strange circumstances.
Qualifying ahead of one of SL and WI was about a 50-50 proposition. I don’t really think those odds have changed. Ballance may be a good player but I don’t think his absence will leave that kind of hole that can’t be filled or at least papered over in ODIs. He’s not an impact player like Taylor, Williams, or Raza. He’s more like a Craig Ervine.
He's alot better than Craig Ervine
A lot better than Ervine. Ballance has an average of 20 done shit in White ball cricket so you think he is going to miraculously score tons of runs would rather play a 20 year old who I know will get better in time than Ballance. We have enough experience already in Slug, Raza, Willow to guide the younger players
The majority of guys live from hand to mouth here, raise families and get on with their lives because there's simply no choice. He got some shit press and had a hard time from people he doesn't even know it and it has affected him badly. Cricket and life don't treat sensitive people kindly.
This is what doesn't make sense. This was the perfect opportunity to reinvent himself. I have no doubt he would have been our best player and probably captain within 12 months. Just doesn't make sense and why I find it hard to believe that his wife would have taken that opportunity from him. How can you make an assessment of a country and your love for the game after 7 matches and 3 months?
My guy this retirement has nothing to do with the wife. Soon you will know what actually happened. Doesn’t it sound alarm bells to you that he is the only player that ZC has not said anything about even a farewell statement? And PCA announcing his retirement ?? The retirement got nothing to do with wife or mental health issues
I know for some people it is really really difficult to admit or recognise a single positive thing in Zim cricket, because we all wanted this board to fail - some of us actively fought it.
But some people blindly saying nothing has improved and things are as bad as ever are blind. That's not to say everything is perfect. There remains countless issues and there remains so much work to be done.
But you can't blindly go around pretending it's still 2019 either, no matter how bitter you may be.
My brother, no one is bitter here. What’s there to be bitter about since you assuming I’m bitter. FYI, I help Zimbabwe Cricket through a company I consult for. They outsource data analytics and happens I get tasked to do that as in familiar with the organisation.
No one addressed issues about the board. I’m sure you’ve never heard me commenting about the board at all because I don’t give a fuck about that board. They don’t play cricket, do they? Are they the executive, no they are not. See where you problem is ‘you fought for the board’ what were you fighting for? What was your interest in doing so? Are they incapable of fighting their own battles? If they need you then they are failures but that’s story for another day.
So you have a fancy consulting job yet you can't even read a fucking basic sentence? Read it again, jeez. Over my dead body would I have ever fought FOR Mr Mukuhlani and co.
Anyway, you aren't worth taking seriously if you seriously don't rate Ballance
Ya you lost me a bit underrating Gary. He's an unbelievable batsman. If you believe you can pick a 20 year old and make him like Ballance then you're sorely mistaken. It's what ZC have believed for 3 decades.
I'm on the fence about the info you have about his retirement and no ZC announcement. I wouldn't read too much into that- ZC don't give two hoots about anyone other than themselves. Not a word was uttered when Price retired, a former world no 1, simply because he was very outspoken and they had some major personal differences.
Hes a public sporting figure so people naturally want to know, but if its personal stuff then he's had enough shit to not to have to deal with another round.
In white ball cricket, I would pick a 21yr old Myers averaging 20 than 33yr old Ballance with so called ‘experience’ averaging 25. Is Ballance playing for Zimbabwe going to change his fortunes in terms of performance? At least with Myers there is potential unlike Gazz there is no potential to speak about. He is experienced yes but can he deliver and make that experience count? NO, simply he is past his sell by date better him play first class to improve our bowlers by making them toil international cricket no.
Also a career average of just over 47 in both First Class and List A...........in county cricket which in your own words a few pages back is an incredibly high standard competition. But apparently he is 'past it'???
There's a reason he was literally the highest paid county player in England until last year.
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