[Match thread] Only Test - Zimbabwe vs Bangladesh

[andybligz93]

beautiful shot

[Zimfanatic69]

With a bit of experience and maturity Mawoyo will not make the mistake of getting out before lunch in the future.

[zimfan1]

Vusi... CALM DOWN!

He can be leaving these wide deliveries, just wait for the bad balls like earlier.

He is being far to loose outside his off stump at the moment, needs to carry on leaving the ball as he did so well in the first hour. Cant give it away now after the good start

[sloandog]

the tigers look very very ordinary

[hhm]

Sorry to belabour the point, but with all due respect we are talking about seam attack, and yes Jarvis is express and Meth more a medium pacer, I'd never even in a drunken stupor imagine they are the same, my point in in the team context, which bowler is better to have in the team, and I say Meth. What do you want in a bowler 1. Wickets...Meth has PROVED in the Logan cup and warm up matches is arguably more prolific than Jarvis 2. Control ...ditto 3. Economy ...ditto 4. Tail end runs...Meth is more accomplished. Your only salvation would to be Jarvis offers something different (Pace)...and my argument is why do you need him if there is someone who has potential to get MORE wicket MORE economically....? Look I am willing to let it go but surely you see the point...and for the record I rate Jarvis, but not higer than Meth...my opinion....

Not again! Prolonging a non-existent dialogue! A consequence of not paying attention to what you read. This confirms precisely what I meant. Although you deny it, you clearly did not understand the context in which I included that statement. Everyone on this forum knows, and with greater awareness you yourself will have noticed that from day one Meth is my man. All of what you are saying to back him up, is more throughly documented by myself. You are in fact arguing more with yourself than you are with me! Like I said I would go with Mpofu, Meth & Elton, and if/when Rainsford completely recovers, Meth steps aside for him. Not Jarvis or even Vitori. I'm not the selector, purely my opinion. As it has turned out, Mpofu & Vitori were the sure picks from the selectors' standpoint. They can already bowl long spells and have control (perhaps less than Meth), so why would I want another similar type bowler(to some degree) in there(no bowler can swing the ball all the time, just ask Hilfy after the last Ashes, or perhaps Jimmy the next time he steps out of England). In that case Jarvis comes in with the X-factor. Relatively shorter, quick, penetrating spells. The decision is no longer about a bowler with slightly better batting, but someone who brings a considerably different dimension. Otherwise, against Bangladesh of all teams, what's the point of the selectors going in with an extra bowler at the expense of an extra batsman! We don't have the depth of quality to classify our bowlers and pick them on this basis, but idealy one would view Mpofu, Rainsford, Jarvis as opening bowlers, while Meth&Vitori are more your first change bowlers. Hence in my view the decision was always going to be between Meth&Vitori. Again if the selectors had picked Meth instead of Vitori, Vitori would also have sat out for Jarvis.

[eugene]

It is nice to wake up to a solid start by Zimbabwe. From what I have seen so far we are hardly looking out of our depth against the mighty Tigers. Our tail looks very long so it is imperative our batsmen score well. From 8 down there will be little run scoring at all.

[takleg]

Vusi has to stick around and get a big one.

[hhm]

With a bit of experience and maturity Mawoyo will not make the mistake of getting out before lunch in the future.

And where should he be learning these basics I wonder.... with his domestic team, in First Class cricket perhaps. Only, we do things differently. We attempt to develop them in international cricket first, and drop them when they fail to apply things they did not learn in First Class cricket, then surprisingly pick them again to turn out for the national when they have been schooled and have proven these abilities where? First Class cricket. But of course he hit some good shots, against bowling which is criminal at this at this level, and got a fair knock out of it today, so perhaps the fact that his education is incomplete may yet remain irrelevant for now. Zimbabwe Cricket! Beautiful! Nothing like it!

[sloandog]

Mbangwa: Dean Du Plessis comes into the commentry box...Dean how are you ?
Dean: Hello Pommie, i'm very well thank you, always good to see you
Mbangwa: So to speak

Brilliant

[FlowerPower]

Sorry to belabour the point, but with all due respect we are talking about seam attack, and yes Jarvis is express and Meth more a medium pacer, I'd never even in a drunken stupor imagine they are the same, my point in in the team context, which bowler is better to have in the team, and I say Meth. What do you want in a bowler 1. Wickets...Meth has PROVED in the Logan cup and warm up matches is arguably more prolific than Jarvis 2. Control ...ditto 3. Economy ...ditto 4. Tail end runs...Meth is more accomplished. Your only salvation would to be Jarvis offers something different (Pace)...and my argument is why do you need him if there is someone who has potential to get MORE wicket MORE economically....? Look I am willing to let it go but surely you see the point...and for the record I rate Jarvis, but not higer than Meth...my opinion....

Not again! Prolonging a non-existent dialogue! A consequence of not paying attention to what you read. This confirms precisely what I meant. Although you deny it, you clearly did not understand the context in which I included that statement. Everyone on this forum knows, and with greater awareness you yourself will have noticed that from day one Meth is my man. All of what you are saying to back him up, is more throughly documented by myself. You are in fact arguing more with yourself than you are with me! Like I said I would go with Mpofu, Meth & Elton, and if/when Rainsford completely recovers, Meth steps aside for him. Not Jarvis or even Vitori. I'm not the selector, purely my opinion. As it has turned out, Mpofu & Vitori were the sure picks from the selectors' standpoint. They can already bowl long spells and have control (perhaps less than Meth), so why would I want another similar type bowler(to some degree) in there(no bowler can swing the ball all the time, just ask Hilfy after the last Ashes, or perhaps Jimmy the next time he steps out of England). In that case Jarvis comes in with the X-factor. Relatively shorter, quick, penetrating spells. The decision is no longer about a bowler with slightly better batting, but someone who brings a considerably different dimension. Otherwise, against Bangladesh of all teams, what's the point of the selectors going in with an extra bowler at the expense of an extra batsman! We don't have the depth of quality to classify our bowlers and pick them on this basis, but idealy one would view Mpofu, Rainsford, Jarvis as opening bowlers, while Meth&Vitori are more your first change bowlers. Hence in my view the decision was always going to be between Meth&Vitori. Again if the selectors had picked Meth instead of Vitori, Vitori would also have sat out for Jarvis.

YOUR OPINION and I respect it, as mentioned before, willing to move off it, obviously we differ...life goes on mate...