4th T20I | Zimbabwe vs India | July 13, 2024

[jontym87]

Guys, I’m here to make a bet @secretzimbo if Antum Naqvi plays for Zimbababwe before the 2027 World Cup I will donate £500 to a charity of your choice.

The whole thing is a mess.

I would honestly be pretty happy if he doesn't. I'm still against the whole thing. if he does ever play for Zim and have the shirt on then I will support it as I do anyone. But I would honestly rather it never happens.

For the first time we agree on something.

[secretzimbo]

ICC eligibility regs; https://images.icc-cricket.com/image/up ... xmbzgu.pdf

Article 2, starts on page 4.

[jontym87]

ICC eligibility regs; https://images.icc-cricket.com/image/up ... xmbzgu.pdf

Article 2, starts on page 4.

Same Documents Page 5 on NOTES.

[secretzimbo]

ICC eligibility regs; https://images.icc-cricket.com/image/up ... xmbzgu.pdf

Article 2, starts on page 4.

Same Documents Page 5 on NOTES.

All of those notes refer to article 2.1.3.

To be clear, Naqvi and ZC are applying for him to be eligible under 2.1.2. Not 2.1.3.

"at the date of submission of the relevant information to the ICC, the Player is able to
demonstrate (by his/her possession of a valid passport issued by the relevant country) that
he/she is a national of the country whose domestic cricket governing body is the National
Cricket Federation;"

By all accounts, he is now in possession of a passport. It may have been ill-gotten (definitely was) and it may land Makoni or ZC in hot-water domestically. But from my reading of the ICC's regs he is therefore eligible, whether we or they like it or not.

[TapsC2]

ICC eligibility regs; https://images.icc-cricket.com/image/up ... xmbzgu.pdf

Article 2, starts on page 4.

Same Documents Page 5 on NOTES.

All of those notes refer to article 2.1.3.

To be clear, Naqvi and ZC are applying for him to be eligible under 2.1.2. Not 2.1.3.

"at the date of submission of the relevant information to the ICC, the Player is able to
demonstrate (by his/her possession of a valid passport issued by the relevant country) that
he/she is a national of the country whose domestic cricket governing body is the National
Cricket Federation;"

By all accounts, he is now in possession of a passport. It may have been ill-gotten (definitely was) and it may land Makoni or ZC in hot-water domestically. But from my reading of the ICC's regs he is therefore eligible, whether we or they like it or not.

Exactly. The ICC has no jurisdiction on how you get your passport. Yes it’s questionable but the person who has the final say is out minister of home affairs. He qualifies according to their own rules but they always decide to scrutinize us more than others. On everything.

[secretzimbo]

Or, if as Jonty suggests that Makoni and ZC are in trouble with the SRC, then it may be ZC themselves who have backtracked and are now holding off selecting Naqvi to protect themselves, rather than the ICC holding it up?

[TapsC2]

Or, if as Jonty suggests that Makoni and ZC are in trouble with the SRC, then it may be ZC themselves who have backtracked and are now holding off selecting Naqvi to protect themselves, rather than the ICC holding it up?

This makes the most sense actually

[Pat_Bee]

The whole thing just looks a complete disaster

[Googly]

I'd have thought they would have gone thru SRC?
Mlotshwa is the boss there, not sure what his relationship is like with ZC these days. Let's not forget the attempted coup and the business relationship between Gerald and Tavengwa. There's a lot of water under the bridge there.
SRC controls all sport in Zim.
ZC have big money and are powerful, if they bypassed SRC and went direct to the Minister or tried to get it done below that (unlikely plus I'd think the minister himself probably signs off on citizenships) then I guess it is possible that SRC have put a spanner in the works.
If that's the case resolution is probable.

[jontym87]

Or, if as Jonty suggests that Makoni and ZC are in trouble with the SRC, then it may be ZC themselves who have backtracked and are now holding off selecting Naqvi to protect themselves, rather than the ICC holding it up?

It was just a silly and stupid decision and not fair on local players and others. Raza did his 10 year residency to get that passport there was no short cuts.

This case stinks and the one for Faraz Akram. At least Faraz was in the country for a solid number of years i know a few people were greased though.