Also, people with short memories, should remember that the last time we tried to properly overthrow the board it was a well managed coordinated campaign led by some very good individuals. That failed, so the chances of a few social media posters overturning the board now is basically less than zero.
Also as stated the SRC and its makeup now is a lot less inclined to get involved than it was five years ago. Look at the SRC members and who they are. Almost no chance they get involved.
If they do, and if we were to get suspended by the ICC again, then sorry but that’s the end of cricket here.
I don’t even know what the petition is asking for or what exactly these people want. The whole crux of the petition seems to be because they want - and I quote - Ernest Masuku, Wes Madhevere and Jonathan Campbell in the team? Is that it?
Nobody had an issue with the XI selected for that second NZ test really. It was more or less our strongest lineup available or at least what most people would have chosen at the time.
Again we are paying the price for twenty five years of poor administration.
Actually, ironically, the last few years have seen a marked improvement on that side of things. There’s no debt, there’s more clubs and players than there have been for a while, there’s more fixtures than there have been for a while, etc. Still a long way to go and there’s still at least 100 problems.
But make no mistake our players are shit now because of the history of poor administration. There are no quick fixes. We are suffering now because of the shit that happened 10, 15 years ago. These players mostly grew up in a terrible system or have declined because of the terrible system.
Again there’s no quick fix. Picking Masuku or Evans or Campbell or anyone isn’t solving the issue overnight.
Also stacking Frank Mawoza isn’t solving the issues overnight either. He’s the stupid rabid mouthpiece yes but he’s not the only one who holds such views. And sacking a racist pottymouth doesn’t suddenly make our entire national cricket team world beaters?
Although I’m very surprised that nobody in ZC has clipped his wings yet. He is Mukuhlani’s cousin btw. I’m surprised they haven’t just told him to stfu. It seems he single handedly has generated this entire situation. He fans the flames . Why don’t ZC tell the fucker to be quiet?!?!?! His behaviour is now literally threatening their downfall!
Anyway I’m just rambling now, I’ve forgotten what my point was.
Yeah an ICC suspension will kill us. Don’t push for it.
Zimbabwe vs New Zealand | Test Series | Second Test | 07 August 2025 - 11 August 2025
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The poorly written, ill thought out petition claims ZC should be investigated for Tribalism, Club favouritism and nepotism.
What does tribalism mean in this case?
Club favouritism suggests Takashinga bias, which obviously we have seen over the years in selection, but it is over stated and I’m not sure what some of these social media commentators even know about club cricket. I’ve seen people saying Madhevere getting selected is Takashinga bias. Despite the fact he has never played for Takashinga. Neither has Madande who is the other one they talk about. When Marumani was in bad form I saw people saying the same thing but again he isn’t Takashinga, never has been. Newman Nyamhuri also isn’t Takashinga.
I wish people did their research before posting because it really doesn’t help the cause when facts are wrong. It just discredits the well intentioned people.
Also nepotism, I can only assume this can only be about Wellington? He’s not a bad player at all. Anyway he’s been dropped for Masekesa so what’s the point here?
I really wish people would talk about the real issues that have caused our repeated poor performance.
Which are, including but not limited to;
Decades of destruction of school cricket
Poor quality coaches and coach education
Poor quality umpires
Limited and poor quality facilities
Non-existent age group cricket below u19
U19’s for the past decade having shit coaches and preparation
Unprofessional franchise sides
Extremely low pay for all but the top 10-15 players
No real, world class high performance plan
No genuine high performance centre or academy
But then it’s much easier to just say ‘LOL Takashinga bias. We want Johanathan Campbell in the team’
What does tribalism mean in this case?
Club favouritism suggests Takashinga bias, which obviously we have seen over the years in selection, but it is over stated and I’m not sure what some of these social media commentators even know about club cricket. I’ve seen people saying Madhevere getting selected is Takashinga bias. Despite the fact he has never played for Takashinga. Neither has Madande who is the other one they talk about. When Marumani was in bad form I saw people saying the same thing but again he isn’t Takashinga, never has been. Newman Nyamhuri also isn’t Takashinga.
I wish people did their research before posting because it really doesn’t help the cause when facts are wrong. It just discredits the well intentioned people.
Also nepotism, I can only assume this can only be about Wellington? He’s not a bad player at all. Anyway he’s been dropped for Masekesa so what’s the point here?
I really wish people would talk about the real issues that have caused our repeated poor performance.
Which are, including but not limited to;
Decades of destruction of school cricket
Poor quality coaches and coach education
Poor quality umpires
Limited and poor quality facilities
Non-existent age group cricket below u19
U19’s for the past decade having shit coaches and preparation
Unprofessional franchise sides
Extremely low pay for all but the top 10-15 players
No real, world class high performance plan
No genuine high performance centre or academy
But then it’s much easier to just say ‘LOL Takashinga bias. We want Johanathan Campbell in the team’
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Re: Zimbabwe vs New Zealand | Test Series | Second Test | 07 August 2025 - 11 August 2025
If someone writes a petition that asks reasoned questions about the above critical issues that underpin the game then maybe I’d sign it!
Re: Zimbabwe vs New Zealand | Test Series | Second Test | 07 August 2025 - 11 August 2025
Mawoza's posts are important. You get a direct idea of what and how they think and more or less what their next step is.
Whilst its utterly disheartening to see the level of venom they have and the death grip they have on all things cricket we can at least see whats coming next, we don't have to guess.
He's copping some heat, even had an open threat from some aggressive war vet dude and he's not slowing down. That tells us they have a firm grip on the situation. I honestly thought he'd be told to rein it in a little and it looks like he's been given the green light to go harder
Any SRC "enquiry" would be behind closed doors and ZC would emerge with another clean bill of health and actually stronger.
The only difference this time around, as lame as it is, is that a few black guys are riled up. Its not amounting to anything but its good to see my black brothers vaguely annoyed
As SZ pointed out what are they asking SRC to look into?
Biased selections? Of all the things they could have picked its the one thing that doesnt stack up after this last test
That SRC board is just a rubber stamp. Those people ask permission to stand up or sit down.
The real issue is that ZC constitution that locks them in forever. They can do whatever they want until cricket is dead and the coffers are dry and there's not a damned thing anybody can do about it. Cricket is all but dead, but there are millions in play. Something wrong here.
Hand picked provincial boards of friends and relatives and homeless people elect the main board of friends, relatives and more homeless people and they all vote for whom and what they're told to. We will never ever see a single person of consequence that has a cricketing brain and some business acumen ever query a single position they ever take again.
I mean it's a dictatorship that makes Zanu look like junior dorm. Zanu at least has some infighting
Mukhulani has achieved God status.
That Batonka stadium is a fine example. With proper people in place it never would have even brought up as an idea. Anybody that even suggested such a conniving money making scheme would have been sent out the room and he'd not last the next election cycle. The money thats going south there and the side deals etc etc are going to be eye-watering.
I mean they've just had an election where the 2M's were unanimously voted back in. Nobody knew about it and nobody seems to care. I mean out of 14 boards of however many dozens of people that dont know the difference between cricket and clay pigeon shooting it was unanimous.
Theyre so confident they didnt even bother pretending they had an MDC opposition candidate to prove it was democratic
There is not one single cricketer that has even tut tutted over this They have been declared too stupid to have a say in who drives the bus and their destiny. They dont care so why should we? Yet 80% of them are not happy
Im sure these board members earn more than most of our cricketers . Its not a high bar, its about 200 a month.
If there are 14 boards of 6 people each (just a guess)
and one main board of about 12 it means there are more board members than franchise cricketers
Bvute had 700 ghost workers, these guys have gone to the next level- more board members than cricketers
Back in the day the clubs voted for the ZC board. Independent clubs voted for cricketing, financial and legal and reputable people to take us forward. That was one of rhe reasons clubs were dismantled. Even Honourable Mliswa tried to hijack the one agm by getting hundreds of street kids to sign up for club memberships just prior to the club AGM's
If Advocate whoever he is wanted to do something useful this is what he should be querying. Another good one would be to get a look at who is on the payroll, what their qualifications are, if they arent cricketers, and what everyone is getting paid. When ball throwers earn more than our national players there's something very very wrong. When franchise players earn less than groundsmen (150) there's something wrong.
Anyway its just a vent. I dont think we can survive mukhulani screaming intervention to ICC again. Our diabolical cricket has made him stronger again, and not weaker. We just cant afford to rock the leaking canoe.
Whilst its utterly disheartening to see the level of venom they have and the death grip they have on all things cricket we can at least see whats coming next, we don't have to guess.
He's copping some heat, even had an open threat from some aggressive war vet dude and he's not slowing down. That tells us they have a firm grip on the situation. I honestly thought he'd be told to rein it in a little and it looks like he's been given the green light to go harder
Any SRC "enquiry" would be behind closed doors and ZC would emerge with another clean bill of health and actually stronger.
The only difference this time around, as lame as it is, is that a few black guys are riled up. Its not amounting to anything but its good to see my black brothers vaguely annoyed
As SZ pointed out what are they asking SRC to look into?
Biased selections? Of all the things they could have picked its the one thing that doesnt stack up after this last test
That SRC board is just a rubber stamp. Those people ask permission to stand up or sit down.
The real issue is that ZC constitution that locks them in forever. They can do whatever they want until cricket is dead and the coffers are dry and there's not a damned thing anybody can do about it. Cricket is all but dead, but there are millions in play. Something wrong here.
Hand picked provincial boards of friends and relatives and homeless people elect the main board of friends, relatives and more homeless people and they all vote for whom and what they're told to. We will never ever see a single person of consequence that has a cricketing brain and some business acumen ever query a single position they ever take again.
I mean it's a dictatorship that makes Zanu look like junior dorm. Zanu at least has some infighting
Mukhulani has achieved God status.
That Batonka stadium is a fine example. With proper people in place it never would have even brought up as an idea. Anybody that even suggested such a conniving money making scheme would have been sent out the room and he'd not last the next election cycle. The money thats going south there and the side deals etc etc are going to be eye-watering.
I mean they've just had an election where the 2M's were unanimously voted back in. Nobody knew about it and nobody seems to care. I mean out of 14 boards of however many dozens of people that dont know the difference between cricket and clay pigeon shooting it was unanimous.
Theyre so confident they didnt even bother pretending they had an MDC opposition candidate to prove it was democratic
There is not one single cricketer that has even tut tutted over this
They have been declared too stupid to have a say in who drives the bus and their destiny. They dont care so why should we? Yet 80% of them are not happy Im sure these board members earn more than most of our cricketers
. Its not a high bar, its about 200 a month. If there are 14 boards of 6 people each (just a guess)
and one main board of about 12 it means there are more board members than franchise cricketers
Bvute had 700 ghost workers, these guys have gone to the next level- more board members than cricketers
Back in the day the clubs voted for the ZC board. Independent clubs voted for cricketing, financial and legal and reputable people to take us forward. That was one of rhe reasons clubs were dismantled. Even Honourable Mliswa tried to hijack the one agm by getting hundreds of street kids to sign up for club memberships just prior to the club AGM's
If Advocate whoever he is wanted to do something useful this is what he should be querying. Another good one would be to get a look at who is on the payroll, what their qualifications are, if they arent cricketers, and what everyone is getting paid. When ball throwers earn more than our national players there's something very very wrong. When franchise players earn less than groundsmen (150) there's something wrong.
Anyway its just a vent. I dont think we can survive mukhulani screaming intervention to ICC again. Our diabolical cricket has made him stronger again, and not weaker. We just cant afford to rock the leaking canoe.