[DRAFT 1] Kriterion_BD, eugene, CrimsonAvenger, jaybro

[CrimsonAvenger]

There were probably only two people I did not want to consider at all for my XI, one was Jarvis, and the other was Carlisle.

Not a fan of Stuart Carlisle ??

Another of my all time favourite Zimbos

Yup, I know you are a fan . He was a frustrating guy. Took momentum out of the game most of the time when the batsman at the other end was ensuring a smooth flow of runs. Brought so much pressure on them that they tries something extra and got out. I saw this happen too many times. Both Flowers, Ali Campbell, Guy Whittall were all at the receiving end.

If he was a bit less selfish in that match in Aus vs India where both him and Sean Ervine scored hundreds and if he had not run Ervine out, Ervine would have won that match for Zim. He remained not out, got to his hundred and threw it away.

But must admit, he was a steely guy who did better than what his limited talent could have offered.

[Kriterion_BD]

Just got home. Will pick soon.

Am I the very last pick? Or is there one final round to go after my pick?

[CrimsonAvenger]

You'll pick your 10 and 11 and then we all have our 11th picks.

[jaybro]

Yup, I know you are a fan . He was a frustrating guy. Took momentum out of the game most of the time when the batsman at the other end was ensuring a smooth flow of runs. Brought so much pressure on them that they tries something extra and got out. I saw this happen too many times. Both Flowers, Ali Campbell, Guy Whittall were all at the receiving end.

If he was a bit less selfish in that match in Aus vs India where both him and Sean Ervine scored hundreds and if he had not run Ervine out, Ervine would have won that match for Zim. He remained not out, got to his hundred and threw it away.

But must admit, he was a steely guy who did better than what his limited talent could have offered.

Yes it's funny how we reflect on people's careers differently

One of my 1st memories of Zimbabwe cricket was Carlisle's hundred in Perth v Australia (The Marillier Match) and from that point on I always looked out for his name on scorecards. It was always a mystery to me back then why he was 'in and out' of the side and his exclusion from the 2003 WC along with AC was one of my first ever frustrations with ZC selections (There's been almost 20 years of it since).

Zimbabwe's return to Australia in 2003/04 Carlisle had made his way back into the side where he really hit the 'sweet spot of his career' scoring a Test 100 at the SCG (Only Zimbo to score a Test Ton against Australia), in the ODIs he got a 100* in the warm up game v Aus A before that 100 v India at Adelaide which left him with 3 International 100s in Aus plus the List A one as well.

He got another 100 v Bangladesh in the 2nd Test before the Rebel saga; Can't have been many Zimbos to score so many tons in a short space of time, maybe BT in 2011 or Andy at some point?

He was a slow starter though I will admit and a fairly limited player, but that's what I loved about him, he embodied that 'ZImbo fight and determination' to succeed against the best despite not having the artillery to do so. He was also a brilliant fieldsman.

[Kriterion_BD]

With my final picks I'm taking

PJ Moor and Shingirai Masakadza

[CrimsonAvenger]

Yup, I know you are a fan . He was a frustrating guy. Took momentum out of the game most of the time when the batsman at the other end was ensuring a smooth flow of runs. Brought so much pressure on them that they tries something extra and got out. I saw this happen too many times. Both Flowers, Ali Campbell, Guy Whittall were all at the receiving end.

If he was a bit less selfish in that match in Aus vs India where both him and Sean Ervine scored hundreds and if he had not run Ervine out, Ervine would have won that match for Zim. He remained not out, got to his hundred and threw it away.

But must admit, he was a steely guy who did better than what his limited talent could have offered.

Yes it's funny how we reflect on people's careers differently

One of my 1st memories of Zimbabwe cricket was Carlisle's hundred in Perth v Australia (The Marillier Match) and from that point on I always looked out for his name on scorecards. It was always a mystery to me back then why he was 'in and out' of the side and his exclusion from the 2003 WC along with AC was one of my first ever frustrations with ZC selections (There's been almost 20 years of it since).

Zimbabwe's return to Australia in 2003/04 Carlisle had made his way back into the side where he really hit the 'sweet spot of his career' scoring a Test 100 at the SCG (Only Zimbo to score a Test Ton against Australia), in the ODIs he got a 100* in the warm up game v Aus A before that 100 v India at Adelaide which left him with 3 International 100s in Aus plus the List A one as well.

He got another 100 v Bangladesh in the 2nd Test before the Rebel saga; Can't have been many Zimbos to score so many tons in a short space of time, maybe BT in 2011 or Andy at some point?

He was a slow starter though I will admit and a fairly limited player, but that's what I loved about him, he embodied that 'ZImbo fight and determination' to succeed against the best despite not having the artillery to do so. He was also a brilliant fieldsman.

Yeah, I guess what matters is when you started watching him . He definitely hit a sweetspot there. Watching him as an upper middle order batsman leading up to 2003 was the real pain. And sometimes he got into the team replacing Guy Whittall too, which would have played its role in me really not liking him at that stage . He was given the test captaincy unexpectedly on the India tour and made a courageous 70 odd on his captaincy debut. That was an excellent knock!

[jaybro]

With my final picks I'm taking

PJ Moor and Shingirai Masakadza

I'll admit I never either of those guys being picked

Shingi was probably unlucky he didn't play more international cricket when you consider some of the shit-house bowlers who have played for Zimbabwe during his time, Tarisai Muzarabani comes to mind

[CrimsonAvenger]

Shingi should have definitely played more red ball cricket for Zim for sure.

[Kriterion_BD]

With my final picks I'm taking

PJ Moor and Shingirai Masakadza

I'll admit I never either of those guys being picked

Shingi was probably unlucky he didn't play more international cricket when you consider some of the shit-house bowlers who have played for Zimbabwe during his time, Tarisai Muzarabani comes to mind

Moor and Shingi both seem solid picks. Couldn’t see who else would be better. Also with Shingi I add a bowler who can bat.

[jaybro]

Moor and Shingi both seem solid picks. Couldn’t see who else would be better. Also with Shingi I add a bowler who can bat.

Moor has been an average ODI batsman but yes you have left yourself without many options at this point

I reckon there are at least 3 better ODI bowlers left on the table than Shingi; granted none are better batsman but with Chisoro at No.9 your tail was long enough IMO.

I feel with some of your selections it shows you probably didn't start following Zim cricket till about 2010 ?