[Match Thread] New Zealand vs Zimbabwe, Only Test

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betterdays wrote:
FlowerPower wrote:
zimfan1 wrote:Just remember guys if we can get a draw out of this game we would of done well, with three days to go and with 20 wickets in hand we have a real chance, NZ will bat at least a session tommorow and then its all about avoiding the follow on.
Thank you....
Man alive, I must reiterate that i wish, with all my heart for these guys to do well - but are you really thanking him for talking about avoiding a follow on before we even bat? and would we have done well to take essentially 4 wickets if we lose by 10 in what would amount to 4 days or for them to take 20 of ours if we only get 8/9 of their wickets?

as i said, i feel i was realistic before the start and i am disappointed (not angry at anyone, just disappointed!) so far!
I think that its important to note that all the hype about playing on a "green top" increased the expectations of our bowlers, when in fact Napier has allways been a very high scoring ground with batsman historicly making big runs.

For me Jarvis is a real find, he has improved in every Test Match he has played so far particulary with his consistent line and length, i admit that his ODI form still needs improving but the lad is only 22 and has only really played one international season. vitori was dissapointing but he had his real sucess bowling to left handers from Bangladesh not good test match right handed batsman from New Zealand.

The thing that is encouaging is that if 2 of these three arnt up to the mark then we have a crop of young bowlers to come in which we have not had before, Meth, Chitara, Quel, Waller and the young quick from the Eagles have all had good seasons.

Lets just wait to see what the New Zealand Bowlers do before we give out the damming verdicts

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Also remember that Zimbabwe is playing against the best test team in Australiasia as New Zealand are fresh off their victory against Australia.
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eugene wrote: But to want to ditch them already for Rainsford and Panyangara who are moderately succesful domestic trundlers at best is crazy. .
let me start with saying i never said 'them' ... yet they don't seem to be doing much worse domestically and really not much worse internationally either
eugene wrote: Sure Rainsford and Panyangara didn't come through the system at a time where their talents could be best utilised but in my opinion neither of them have the potential or talent that Jarvis, Mpofu, or even Vitori have displayed.
really? how do you figure though? cos the way i see it is that neither set of bowlers have really excelled.

I am not damning anyone - in fact i have been praising their potential but until it is fully realised i don't think they should be opening as a pair. It took Vusi, Hammie and Matsie 8 years to develop into real cricketers - they had successes along the way but they always looked unready ... Vusi and Hammie now at least llok they they believe they belong. anyway ... let's look forward to tonight...and wish them well (I would guess if the players ever checked the net for opinions on them they'd go to cricinfo where there is more damning critic than they'd get here!)

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eugene wrote: But to want to ditch them already for Rainsford and Panyangara who are moderately succesful domestic trundlers at best is crazy. .
let me start with saying i never said 'them' ... yet they don't seem to be doing much worse domestically and really not much worse internationally either
eugene wrote: Sure Rainsford and Panyangara didn't come through the system at a time where their talents could be best utilised but in my opinion neither of them have the potential or talent that Jarvis, Mpofu, or even Vitori have displayed.
really? how do you figure though? cos the way i see it is that neither set of bowlers have really excelled.

I am not damning anyone - in fact i have been praising their potential but until it is fully realised i don't think they should be opening as a pair. It took Vusi, Hammie and Matsie 8 years to develop into real cricketers - they had successes along the way but they always looked unready ... Vusi and Hammie now at least llok they they believe they belong. anyway ... let's look forward to tonight...and wish them well (I would guess if the players ever checked the net for opinions on them they'd go to cricinfo where there is more damning critic than they'd get here!)

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Vitori clean bowls Bracewell and then Shingari gets a wicket but then its a no ball

a mixed start

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Vitori bowling a lot quicker this morning, nearly all deliverys over 130 and he has reached 135

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zimfan1 wrote:Vitori bowling a lot quicker this morning, nearly all deliverys over 130 and he has reached 135
Meaning he was under a speed restriction ............

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Cremer gets Southee, but he did a lot of dame, looks like we are going to have to get 300 to avoid the follow on but the pitch still looks good

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Guys what teh hell is wrong with our fielding ....sitters , half chances we drop...

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Interesting that the New Zealand opening bowlers are bowling similar speeds to ours

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