Finally Mount Hamilton Masakadza Wins

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Flower was amazing to watch love. Great balance and head control on his shots. He always played with a really nice straight bat. He was one of those batsmen where if you lost a wicket, as a batting side you smiled, as a bowling side you cringed.

AC and DH were also technically really good, but I don't think they had the skill level of AF. He was in another class compared to anyone in the country. I used to enjoy watching them down at my local club.

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zimbos_05 wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:13 pm
AC and DH were also technically really good, but I don't think they had the skill level of AF. He was in another class compared to anyone in the country. I used to enjoy watching them down at my local club.
I think it's amazing that a player once ranked the best batter in the world was playing serious cricket at your local club. You don't get that in many countries

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sloandog wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:26 am
zimbos_05 wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:13 pm
AC and DH were also technically really good, but I don't think they had the skill level of AF. He was in another class compared to anyone in the country. I used to enjoy watching them down at my local club.
I think it's amazing that a player once ranked the best batter in the world was playing serious cricket at your local club. You don't get that in many countries
It's indicative of the system and structure we had. I remember watching these guys play and thinking "why is an international cricketer at my local club". They played for the love of the game. It did not matter if they were an international, they genuinely loved the game and any opportunity to play. It was like you would get in your own local game. The two teams sitting in the same clubhouse interacting with each other whilst the game is going on on the field. You could be watching the game and sitting next to an A.Flower or D.Houghton or H.Streak...these guys genuinely cared and they had a proper structure in place that was going to take Zim Cricket forward.

I recently went back to Zim and went to a local club. Some guys were playing in the nets. They got told to move because of the big wigs at the club said they were making too much noise.

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FC cricket was very limited in the 90s too. Club cricket filled up the calendar.

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zimbos_05 wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:37 am
sloandog wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:26 am
zimbos_05 wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:13 pm
AC and DH were also technically really good, but I don't think they had the skill level of AF. He was in another class compared to anyone in the country. I used to enjoy watching them down at my local club.
I think it's amazing that a player once ranked the best batter in the world was playing serious cricket at your local club. You don't get that in many countries
It's indicative of the system and structure we had. I remember watching these guys play and thinking "why is an international cricketer at my local club". They played for the love of the game. It did not matter if they were an international, they genuinely loved the game and any opportunity to play. It was like you would get in your own local game. The two teams sitting in the same clubhouse interacting with each other whilst the game is going on on the field. You could be watching the game and sitting next to an A.Flower or D.Houghton or H.Streak...these guys genuinely cared and they had a proper structure in place that was going to take Zim Cricket forward.

I recently went back to Zim and went to a local club. Some guys were playing in the nets. They got told to move because of the big wigs at the club said they were making too much noise.
Sorry that’s BS.
It’s the same setup. You could easily right now experience the same with Williams or someone. The real answer is that there’s onky three stages of cricket in Zimbabwe. Club- first class- international.

Look at the vigne cup thread that was posed today. Sibanda and maruma are playing. If there wasn’t an international on then you’d see a few of those guys too. If you don’t see them then it’s not the setup it’s because they are kicking it At Lake Kariba in a tinny. Not because of the setup.

Moreso, this is why being a cricketer in zim is fantastic. You are not far from making it from whatever point you’re at.
You could be some bush nigga with a wicked eye and a big dick who’s never played before and you’d be in the mountaineers squad within two seasons with natural talent
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Club cricket in those days was massively better than our current FC standard, there’s absolutely no doubt about that. And the sensible thing was that you had 5 or so very strong sides within Harare, my point being not everyone had to jump in a car and drive to Kwekwe, Mutare or Masvingo to pretend they lived there. Whilst there is merit in having Mutare and Kwekwe cricket grounds up and running it’s a stupid exercise having everyone drive there from Harare for their games to tick that particular ICC box.

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What I really don’t get is that with the limited number of FC and List A games that we play, and that’s assuming every game is played (we’re lucky to play half), why is it that the franchise guys seem so reluctant to play club cricket? A few guys turn out now and then, and I think it’s occuring a bit more now, but that passion for your club has disappeared. Once again that’s because the club system was deliberately dismantled. We need that back urgently, it works here with our small cricket playing population and ZC’s reluctance or inability to fund anything.

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We always on the case of hammering the board but I think the players could possibly give a little back too.

Dogg pointed out that Vusi & Maruma are playing club cricket at the moment, but they’re both out of the national side at the moment, I highly doubt BT would be padding up in the Vigne Cup.
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ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:43 am


Sorry that’s BS.
It’s the same setup. You could easily right now experience the same with Williams or someone. The real answer is that there’s onky three stages of cricket in Zimbabwe. Club- first class- international.

Look at the vigne cup thread that was posed today. Sibanda and maruma are playing. If there wasn’t an international on then you’d see a few of those guys too. If you don’t see them then it’s not the setup it’s because they are kicking it At Lake Kariba in a tinny. Not because of the setup.

Moreso, this is why being a cricketer in zim is fantastic. You are not far from making it from whatever point you’re at.
You could be some bush nigga with a wicked eye and a big dick who’s never played before and you’d be in the mountaineers squad within two seasons with natural talent
I don't see what I said wrong. It's true. That was the structure. Yes it still exists to a degree, but it's not in the same vain. That's all it is.

I'm not saying you can't get close to the players now, I'm saying it was more evident and clear. It was more structured and done regularly than it is now. There was a strong club structure and pathway for players to come through, whereas now it is a little diminished. We do only have 4 FC sides after all. With that solid structure, club cricket was just as challenging as it should be. Now, you're more likely to get that challenge in FC and above. A lot of the clubs no longer have teams or exist

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