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[cock]

Get over yourselves people: Vitori, Mpofu, Jarvis, Chatara and Shingi are the future;

These players are not the future they are the present. The future is players like N Waller, C Price, J Bruce, N Mushangwe and
T Mutombodzi

[cock]

Why do I get the feeling that some people will still be calling for the return of Blignaut, Goodwin and Sean Ervine when I'm zooming around on a zimmer frame.

Brian Vitori. Product of the franchise system and potential world-beater. Look at the way they found him, and go find more in the same way. Far more use to us than players of the past era that people really need to get over.

Wouldnt every player be a product of the franchise system?

Also I believe before we get too stuck into vitori love let's not lose sight of the fact he has only done this against Bangladesh who are probably as strong as the tuskers ATM. As impressive as he has been against them until we see him against a good bat we don't know for sure.

Also I think Murray could still be good for our test line up but we missed a golden chance to grab him early 2010 when he was thinking about it as we could have used him for the World cup

Most Zimbabwe Players are not the product of Franchise cricket but are the product of School Boy Cricket. 99% of our talent is identified at this stage and ZCU should be ploughing more money back into school cricket to stop the standard dropping as they are.

[sloandog]

Get over yourselves people: Vitori, Mpofu, Jarvis, Chatara and Shingi are the future

I'm just interested to see if you've actually been watching the series between Bangladesh and Zimbabwe pal...either that or you're increasingly ignorant or you have taken a serious dislike to to these boys. Lets have a look shall we...

Vitori: brings a whole new dimention to our pace attack and can bowl with some serious heat, will only improve as he gets older and stronger.

Mpofu: experienced and proven campaigner that can take wickets, not the future, he's the now!

Jarvis: Again, exciting! We've not had a white fast bowler like him since Anthony Ireland, and Jarvis is 10 times the bowler Ireland was when he was his age. Another for the now!

Chatara: okay, I'll sympathise, maybe he should have another season of fitst class cricket, but only one. He's ready in my opinion, and I think he should be used in one of the series either againts Pakistan or New Zealand, much like Vitori was used in this series as a secret weapon.

Shingrai: again, huge potential. He shouldn't be near the set-up at the moment because he's too eratic, but he could certainly be used as a strike bowler in T20 cricket, we could discuss that though.

Out of the bowlers you mentioned, probably only Chitara can be classed as a 'future' prospect, a near future prospect at that. All our bowlers are proving that they are hungry for wickets, and that they are near close to ready for internationla cricket.

[Conant]

Lol sloan, you are hilarious. Read the whole sentence and if not still the whole paragraph. Then you'll know where I'm coming from, because you've just said precisely the opposite of what I was saying.

Get over yourselves people: Vitori, Mpofu, Jarvis, Chatara and Shingi are the future;

These players are not the future they are the present. The future is players like N Waller, C Price, J Bruce, N Mushangwe and
T Mutombodzi

Perhaps cock felt the need to contradict today, which is a lesson in itself to make one's arguments tight as possible, especially if you have chosen to say what everyone is either afraid or wary of saying.

Certainly to nitpick that sentence is quite curious and amusing: last century is the past, so is yesterday; today is the present; tomorrow can already be classified the future even if a year or two from now is also the present, as you say.

What is I chose to say, ah cock, no: the future is not the Natsai Mushangwe, nor the Callum Prices or even Tino Mutombodzi who has played two seasons of first class cricket already. The future is that raw talent that is in the primary grade schools, which has to be captured early and harnessed soon!!

Then the argument would go on forever, wouldn’t it??

[andybligz93]

Get over yourselves people: Vitori, Mpofu, Jarvis, Chatara and Shingi are the future

I'm just interested to see if you've actually been watching the series between Bangladesh and Zimbabwe pal...either that or you're increasingly ignorant or you have taken a serious dislike to to these boys. Lets have a look shall we...

Vitori: brings a whole new dimention to our pace attack and can bowl with some serious heat, will only improve as he gets older and stronger.

Mpofu: experienced and proven campaigner that can take wickets, not the future, he's the now!

Jarvis: Again, exciting! We've not had a white fast bowler like him since Anthony Ireland, and Jarvis is 10 times the bowler Ireland was when he was his age. Another for the now!

Chatara: okay, I'll sympathise, maybe he should have another season of fitst class cricket, but only one. He's ready in my opinion, and I think he should be used in one of the series either againts Pakistan or New Zealand, much like Vitori was used in this series as a secret weapon.

Shingrai: again, huge potential. He shouldn't be near the set-up at the moment because he's too eratic, but he could certainly be used as a strike bowler in T20 cricket, we could discuss that though.

Out of the bowlers you mentioned, probably only Chitara can be classed as a 'future' prospect, a near future prospect at that. All our bowlers are proving that they are hungry for wickets, and that they are near close to ready for internationla cricket.

watch for all the " why does it matter if hes white sloan comments " i get what you mean but

[sloandog]

watch for all the " why does it matter if hes white sloan comments " i get what you mean but

What ?

Lol sloan, you are hilarious. Read the whole sentence and if not still the whole paragraph. Then you'll know where I'm coming from, because you've just said precisely the opposite of what I was saying.

Mate, you've said that Jarvis, Mazakadza, mpofu ?!, Chitara and Vitori are the future. I'm saying they aren't and that they're the present crop of fast bowlers at our disposal....what's so amusing

[cock]

Perhaps cock felt the need to contradict today, which is a lesson in itself to make one's arguments tight as possible, especially if you have chosen to say what everyone is either afraid or wary of saying.

Certainly to nitpick that sentence is quite curious and amusing: last century is the past, so is yesterday; today is the present; tomorrow can already be classified the future even if a year or two from now is also the present, as you say.

What is I chose to say, ah cock, no: the future is not the Natsai Mushangwe, nor the Callum Prices or even Tino Mutombodzi who has played two seasons of first class cricket already. The future is that raw talent that is in the primary grade schools, which has to be captured early and harnessed soon!!

Then the argument would go on forever, wouldn’t it??

I agree with you as I said earlier that it is not franchise cricket identifying talent but 99% of talent is identified at school level and I feel ZC needs to invest more in this area as it is deterioating especially in the government schools.

[Maweni]

No, it is not about hhm, zimdoggy. It is about you. And it is not even about your humour or your lame attempts to laugh your prejudices off.

Sometimes it can be tolerated, like when you imply the Mountaineers must be rid of, for
whatever reason. Sometimes, it is bare, and cannot be ignored. I expect Maehara might lock this. Too bad, I don't shy away from what must be said, even though I and we are not perfect ourselves.

I do not blame you. Possibly you're not even aware of. It is not your fault, but it just seems so lackadaisical, and deliberately insensitive, and it is repeated time and time again.

Gotta agree with you Conant. Surely Zimdoggy, you must realise there's something wrong with some of your comments if so many people complain about them?

[maehara]

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, if you have a problem with someone's post(s), REPORT THE POST. Do not make a public debate of it. Locking.