brmtaylor.com admin wrote:Is Butterworth a chance for a franchise gig this season?
I always felt for him a bit. He was one of the few "stalwarts" left on the domestic circuit in the bad old days, and while his contemporaries like Trevor Garwe all ended up getting an international cap Butterworth seemed to just fall short.
How can you compare Butterworth with the likes of Garwe who put in the hard yards day in and day out. Butterworth belongs to the boozers league at best. The one who deserved his national cap was Erick Chauluka, if anything. The kid was pure class...
Maybe you can help fill in some of the gaps of the "Stalwarts of the Bad Old Days XI". They may not have represented the best of the Logan Cup (but by default, they did at times), but they were automatic selections that you could bet your house on.
1. A Tichana
2. E Chauluka (c)
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4. R Butterworth
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8. T Garwe
9. A Manyumwa
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CrimsonAvenger wrote:How can you compare Butterworth with the likes of Garwe who put in the hard yards day in and day out. Butterworth belongs to the boozers league at best.
Good thing you posted this. Garwe belongs to different bracket that's for sure. Butterworth comes across as someone more suited to rugby than cricket. Anyone knows his background?
Almost every year the club season "finally" starts weeks late amidst much hype and excitement for the first 2 weeks and nearly always peters out. I'm not familiar with the league structure, but if there's a 2nd and 3rd league with teams supposedly being promoted or relegated I can tell you with certainty it's not going to work. There aren't the number of players, full stop!! Plus of course any decent player in a team that is due for relegation is just going to jump ship. National and franchise players were always supposed to be affiliated to a club and were supposed to turn out when they were fixture free but none of them ever bothered, except Vusi tried to bat himself back into form a couple of times. They will disappear if franchise starts. I'm also guaranteeing that the umpiring situation will never be resolved, there's about 4-6 decent, vaguely unbiased umps in the entire country, the rest should be doing hard time for being blatant cheats and I really wonder why they bother, it cannot be worth the price of a lunch to make some of the calls I've seen. I'd like to see some kind of cameras set up for club games, it can't be that difficult or expensive. I'm not suggesting a live TMO but a review system for the umpires so the good ones get rewarded and the cheats get a public arse kicking.
I've never ever understood the whole promotion/relegation system.
Its a very english thing to do.
It just kills one/two clubs at season end and catapults teams with all these new players the next. Like what Gooly said.
Best way to destabilize a competition.
That said a grading system is probably better suited to the lower teams.
Example; is Old Hararians 2nd 11 more 2nd or 3rd grade worthy etc.
Cricinfo profile of the 'James Bond' of cricket:
FULL NAME: Angus James Mackay
BORN: 13 June 1967, Harare
KNOWN AS: Gus Mackay
The league is trully underway. I will try and get some stats to get the website updated and some round 1 stats being made available. We are still awaiting some training and installation of CricHq for better stats tracking.
The issue of National and Franchise players for me is neither here or there. For me it was great to see Timmy and Regis bully and punsih my Rainbow they showed class and taught us important lessons on taking our chances. The fact that we were 134-1 after 10 in the chase shows how badly we collapsed. But we learn that next time we should pace ourselves. I know Sikander Raza has already played in the second league this year for his Alex sports club scoring a 15 ball 67. There are guys who are big on club cricket and those are Chamu Chibaba, Garwe, Trenchard, Waller, Burl, Regis, Timcyn, Shingi . The others cant be bothered.
gargamel wrote:We are still awaiting some training and installation of CricHq for better stats tracking.
I take it jimmylesaint the self-proclaimed CricHq boss in ZImbabwe will be taking care of you guys then hey? He's dragging his feet as usual "Mr I'm more efficient than ZC". Poor service all around.
I can understand limitations from a ZC persperctive - facilities, equipement, coaches, umpires etc which affect cricket in general. But in an age where Linux, programming tools, databases etc are "freely" and easily available, plus enthusiastic sharp kids all over the country, as well as others abroad who can help, surely you guys can develop and host your own thing to keep track of stats. Econet, Zol etc can donate something to you guys as well.
Cricinfo controls too much in terms of biased flow of information, yet it cannot give proper detailed historical FC&List A & Twenty20 stats. Perhaps even get ZC involved as well for that. Surely AC can release some small funds for a project of this nature. No?
I take it jimmylesaint the self-proclaimed CricHq boss in ZImbabwe will be taking care of you guys then hey? He's dragging his feet as usual "Mr I'm more efficient than ZC". Poor service all around.
Don't start messing with my business poofheada_indabumba.
Actually too late crichq has signed up with ZC already. Your mate Givemore actually signed on the dotted line right in front of me.