Considering Welch never wanted to leave originally i could definitely see him back by years end. His story shows complete ZC mismanagement.secretzimbo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:43 pmMelton is a free agent so seems the 'easiest'.
Ben Curran might find himself with a reduced (white ball only) contract from Northants for next season - ZC may actually be more lucrative than that. He's probably second on the easy list.
Welch third, he must be getting frustrated by the lack of opportunities, although considering the years and years of toil in England I can't see him giving up on it yet.
Don't get your hopes up. I can't see much happening.
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Why do we always have to do these restarts. There's always this false hope. Someone gets brought in to bring back players and refresh. They do, we get close, then ZC goes ape shit and screws up everything. Gets rid of everyone again and causes all the issues. Then we get beaten so bad that they go, "oh shit, we need people back". Then the cycle starts again.
It's happened with Streak, Taibu, Campbell, now with Houghton. We keep fixing the symptoms and not the cause.
As much as the idea that Houghton is going to bring back players and all excites me, I'm not going to cheer until I see actual change. Can already hear Melhuli writing articles about how they brought back players and then we lost a game, and blaming Houghton for some sort of racist crap.
It's happened with Streak, Taibu, Campbell, now with Houghton. We keep fixing the symptoms and not the cause.
As much as the idea that Houghton is going to bring back players and all excites me, I'm not going to cheer until I see actual change. Can already hear Melhuli writing articles about how they brought back players and then we lost a game, and blaming Houghton for some sort of racist crap.
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Hoping that this is real.
This bloke has been the worst international coach of any cricket team in history.
Even poorly skilled coaches in little associate countries try to make their teams better.
And to have Houghton as a replacement! Even with no imports we'll be 25% better just from a more harmonious dressing room.
This bloke has been the worst international coach of any cricket team in history.
Even poorly skilled coaches in little associate countries try to make their teams better.
And to have Houghton as a replacement! Even with no imports we'll be 25% better just from a more harmonious dressing room.
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But who can fix the cause and how?zimbos_05 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 2:12 amWhy do we always have to do these restarts. There's always this false hope. Someone gets brought in to bring back players and refresh. They do, we get close, then ZC goes ape shit and screws up everything. Gets rid of everyone again and causes all the issues. Then we get beaten so bad that they go, "oh shit, we need people back". Then the cycle starts again.
It's happened with Streak, Taibu, Campbell, now with Houghton. We keep fixing the symptoms and not the cause.
As much as the idea that Houghton is going to bring back players and all excites me, I'm not going to cheer until I see actual change. Can already hear Melhuli writing articles about how they brought back players and then we lost a game, and blaming Houghton for some sort of racist crap.
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Exactly right. There's also the 2023 Presidential election looming and if social media is anything to go by its going to be the ugliest one yet. People are fed up with the massive corruption and the tanking economy. Once again we have the highest inflation rate in the world- officially 350%, but it's more.zimbos_05 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 2:12 amWhy do we always have to do these restarts. There's always this false hope. Someone gets brought in to bring back players and refresh. They do, we get close, then ZC goes ape shit and screws up everything. Gets rid of everyone again and causes all the issues. Then we get beaten so bad that they go, "oh shit, we need people back". Then the cycle starts again.
It's happened with Streak, Taibu, Campbell, now with Houghton. We keep fixing the symptoms and not the cause.
As much as the idea that Houghton is going to bring back players and all excites me, I'm not going to cheer until I see actual change. Can already hear Melhuli writing articles about how they brought back players and then we lost a game, and blaming Houghton for some sort of racist crap.
Zanu are also warming up their election campaign with massive anti-white posts, dredging up the past as that always has resonance. The "we'll never be a colony again" chant has mostly flown because we are in fact a Chinese colony. There are more Chinese here than there ever were whites and they have their predatory claws into absolutely everything. We are in deep trouble with these guys, they will never being ousted, seem subject to the same laws as the political elite ie none and every last bit of ill-gotten profit goes straight out of the country. The murder and mutilation of Moreblessing Ali has shown what's in store for this poor country of ours.
Some of the posts have been quite funny.
The opposition guys keep responding with "Smith was better." It's enraging and engaging everybody. The best counter argument so far has been "well look how much the Chinese are doing for us!" They've spent the last 40 years looting and digging themselves in and they know it. The main card has always been land and the people have seen that the good land still goes to the elites and to party stalwarts prepared to do their Master's bidding and Command Agriculture has been theft on the grandest of scales.
Houghton has to navigate very carefully. Whether he does look overseas or not remains to be seen, but thats fraught with political problems. I think he could only justify someone like Ballance getting a direct spot as he has had international exposure. Ballance seems to have not played any cricket at all of late for Yorkshire, its very odd. Someone will jump onto Ballance's supposed racist utterances, but only if he's told to. Reporters do as they're told here. I guess it's why the ZC media section don't come to work, you just phone the captured reporter and tell him what to say.
This current magnanimous sentiment of we don't care what colour our players are as long as we get results would last up to the point where everyone saw 6 (arbitrary number) white guys in national colours and then the shit storm would start. If they didn't immediately beat Australia, England and India the noise would reach a crescendo overnight.
The only way would be to talk to some guys who may be interested, get them to play a season here and hopefully make some runs or take wickets so you can justify their selection to the many many people that would question the choosing of an MDC XI. It's a fair way, I guess. The problem is you could have a really good player have a couple of shit games, thus delaying selection for even a year. I guess that's cricket though.
The fact is if your line up was Ballance, Cartwright, Ervine, Williams, Byrom, Eskinazi, Higgins etc etc we are still being beaten by the top sides. That would be interesting actually.
Within a second there would be an emergency meeting at HSC (pin location required) and the conclusion would be, we're getting fucked up regardless, we'd may as well do it with our own boys, they're so close to winning a game. Or back to the old days of -at least put one black guy in the top 3 for appearance' sake. I'm just talking hypothetically here, but this is what he will be dealing with all the time. Meddling from guys who know Jack.
The fact is they want to be left in peace in charge of vast sums of money to do as they please, campaign away as MP's, get their goon squads to crack a few yellow shirted heads, do some weekend farming, and just live a stress free life.
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Oh for sure we are heading the same way as Zambia - they are over-run with the Chinese and their problems. Oh and these people are the most racist of them all when you deal with them.Googly wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:31 amExactly right. There's also the 2023 Presidential election looming and if social media is anything to go by its going to be the ugliest one yet. People are fed up with the massive corruption and the tanking economy. Once again we have the highest inflation rate in the world- officially 350%, but it's more.zimbos_05 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 2:12 amWhy do we always have to do these restarts. There's always this false hope. Someone gets brought in to bring back players and refresh. They do, we get close, then ZC goes ape shit and screws up everything. Gets rid of everyone again and causes all the issues. Then we get beaten so bad that they go, "oh shit, we need people back". Then the cycle starts again.
It's happened with Streak, Taibu, Campbell, now with Houghton. We keep fixing the symptoms and not the cause.
As much as the idea that Houghton is going to bring back players and all excites me, I'm not going to cheer until I see actual change. Can already hear Melhuli writing articles about how they brought back players and then we lost a game, and blaming Houghton for some sort of racist crap.
Zanu are also warming up their election campaign with massive anti-white posts, dredging up the past as that always has resonance. The "we'll never be a colony again" chant has mostly flown because we are in fact a Chinese colony. There are more Chinese here than there ever were whites and they have their predatory claws into absolutely everything. We are in deep trouble with these guys, they will never being ousted, seem subject to the same laws as the political elite ie none and every last bit of ill-gotten profit goes straight out of the country. The murder and mutilation of Moreblessing Ali has shown what's in store for this poor country of ours.
Maybe we'll have a chinese kid playing for zimbabwe one day



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2 batsmen, a bowler and a keeper. That's the wishlist.
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My wishlist is a Board with credibility that attracts corporate sponsorship, that includes a couple of upstanding white guys that gives us comfort. They're not easy to find these days either
We don't want to take over, we want someone who will look after our interests as well. This political stuff has to end.
Trying to resurrect our cricket which everyone can now see is dead in the water requires buy-in from the white community. As unpalatable as that may be it's the truth.
We are joined at the hip, for better or for worse. We need white players to believe in the system.

We don't want to take over, we want someone who will look after our interests as well. This political stuff has to end.
Trying to resurrect our cricket which everyone can now see is dead in the water requires buy-in from the white community. As unpalatable as that may be it's the truth.
We are joined at the hip, for better or for worse. We need white players to believe in the system.