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IRELAND TOUR OF ZIMBABWE IN OCTOBER (3 ODIs and 1 x 4 Day Match)
Squad: William Porterfield (captain), Andrew Balbirnie, George Dockrell, Ed Joyce, John Mooney, Tim Murtagh, Andrew McBrine, Kevin O'Brien, Niall O'Brien, Stuart Poynter (for Zimbabwe only), Max SorensenPaul Stirling, Stuart Thompson, Gary Wilson, Craig Young.

AFGHANISTAN TOUR OF ZIMBABWE IN OCTOBER (5 ODIS and 2 T20s)
Squad: ???

BANGLADESH A TOUR OF ZIMBABWE OCT-NOV (2 x 4 Day Matches and 3 x List A Matches)
Bangladesh A squad: Sadman Islam, Rony Talukdar, Liton Kumar Das, Soumya Sarker, Sabbir Rahaman, Musaddek Hossain Saikat, Mahmudul Hasan, Shuvagata Hom Chowdhury, Md Mithun, Kamrul Islam Rabbi, Mohammed Shahid, Al Amin Hossain, Abu Jayed Chowdhury Rahi, Saqlain Sajib, Zubaer Hossain, Taijul Islam
Standby: Quazi Nurul Hasan, Dewan Sabbir Ahmed, Tasamul Hoque, Sunzamul Islam

MY SQUADS
ZIMBAWE vs IRELAND ODIs: Chibhabha, Mutumbami, Craig/Vusi, Hami, Williams, Chigumbura(c), Raza, Jongwe, Cremer/Nyumbu/Wellington, Panyangara, Chatara/Vitori

ZIMBABWE A vs IRELAND 4 DAY: Kasuza, Chari, Chakabva, Vusi(c), Maruma, Mutumbami(wk), Mutombodzi, Jongwe, Wellington, Vitori, Musoko (Reserves - Gupo, Chimhamhiwa, Mushangwe, Burl, Kaia)

ZIMBABWE vs AFGHANISTAN ODIs: Kasuza, Chari, Chakabva(c), Mutizwa, Maruma, Mutumbami(wk), Mutombodzi, Jongwe, Wellington, Vitori, Musoko (Reserves - Chimhamhiwa, Mushangwe, Burl, Kaia)

ZIMBABWE vs AFGHANISTAN T20s: Zhuwao, Raza, Hami, Chigumbura(c), Kaia, Jongwe(vc), Sauramba(wk), Cremer, Wellington, Vitori, Chatara

ZIMBABWE A vs BANGLADESH A 4 DAY: Gupo, Kasuza, Chari, Mutizwa(c), Maruma, Mutumbami(wk), Mutombodzi, Jongwe, Wellington, Vitori, Musoko (Reserves - Burl, Chimhamhiwa, Mushangwe, Kaia)

ZIMBAWE A vs BANGLADESH A LIST A: Kasuza, Chari, Chakabva(c), Mutizwa, Maruma, Mutumbami(wk), Mutombodzi, Jongwe, Wellington, Vitori, Musoko (Reserves - Chimhamhiwa, Mushangwe, Burl, Kaia)

I think those are the best sections possible. Ireland probably committed to coming and paying their way only if they get a full strength team for the ODIs, so they’ll get it. After that it’s the chance for the bench to shine while others take a long break and prepare for the domestic season.

Chakabva needs all the gam etime to improve his ODI game (has nothing to prove in 4 day games against Bangladesh A). Did well ni List A for Zim A in Bangladesh, but failed during the main tour and since then. As the future leader of the side he needs to lead the youngsters as often as possible, which is why it’s concerning Vusi has already been picked to lead Zim A. Hope it’s just for that 4 day game against Ireland, then he's released.

Would be nice to see Gupo in the 4 day games, Zim’s next best find in my view after Jongwe & Wellignton, and a stubborn opener. The team needs a quality opening batsman in Test, and I think he may prove to be better than Kasuza&Chari.

Vitori & Mutizwa need sustained exposure. Maruma having recovered will no doubt be brought back too.

Mushangwe is unfortunate with Wellington being the front-runner, but they should be rotated so he can share the matches with Wellington.

Masvaure unfortunate to miss out completely. Chimhamhiwa and Burl deserve to be included just for the experience. Maybe both can get a run in one of the List A/ODI matches. Along with the likes of Gumbie, Mamhiyo. Mpofu etc whom I've all excluded, they'll have chances in future. I have a funny feeling Mpofu will keep Musoko out and relegate him to this group.

Conscious choice that Mawoyo is not here?

Houghton coaching Afghanistan, and Inzamam-ul-Haq coaching Afganistan means they are not hear to take things lightly.

Still I feel ZC should not be afraid. Use this tour to try the youngsters and discard some of the pretenders so chances can be given to the new generation with no one to cry unfairness.

After being emarassed by India, Bangladesh will get good experience in South Africa before going to Zimbabwe. Some of the internationals they had in India are not there but still they will be looking to do well and I think Heath Streak will be there to guide them.

I asked the Admins to merge those threads becasue it's all just speculation for now and duplicate thoughts all over, I'm confused. They can feel free to delete this and put it under the Ireland one, which is the earliest

eugene wrote:Conscious choice that Mawoyo is not here?

Yup. I left him and Mpofu out, and like I said, would have left out Vusi as well if he wasn't already declared part of and leader of the A side to face Ireland.

You know what you'll get from those guys. Besides, Mawoyo is a little bit like Malcolm. based on form he doesn't deserve to be in there. it's wrong! Sends a bad message to the likes of Masvaure and Gumbie. Let him score some run sin th eupcoming domestic season first.

This is not because historically, I don't rate him that highly either. I believe he can still do a job at international level, plus tim eis on his side. he's still young. But he must lose weight and score runs first.

bavuma_rabada wrote:

eugene wrote:Conscious choice that Mawoyo is not here?

Yup. I left him and Mpofu out, and like I said, would have left out Vusi as well if he wasn't already declared part of and leader of the A side to face Ireland.

You know what you'll get from those guys. Besides, Mawoyo is a little bit like Malcolm. based on form he doesn't deserve to be in there. it's wrong! Sends a bad message to the likes of Masvaure and Gumbie. Let him score some run sin th eupcoming domestic season first.

This is not because historically, I don't rate him that highly either. I believe he can still do a job at international level, plus tim eis on his side. he's still young. But he must lose weight and score runs first.

Playing Devil's advocate here to see the response more than anything else.

Since you are obsessed by the right to play based on stats - Keith Dabengwa 2nd top run scorer in the Logan Cup last year.....

GregorPJ wrote:Playing Devil's advocate here to see the response more than anything else.

Since you are obsessed by the right to play based on stats - Keith Dabengwa 2nd top run scorer in the Logan Cup last year.....

I agree with you. It's not stats per se but fairness. One could argue Tiripano & Chinouya have earned the right to play based on their many seasons of excellent returns but I left them out.

Carl Mumba for instance might also say why is Burl there yet he was comparatively more excellent, and both are still new, yet he is excluded? Thing is the seamers' roster is packed, and batsmen very few, while Chimhamhiwa although slightly weaker than he was last season, has more experiecne. I'd like to think he's faster&taller than Mumba. No?*

I mentioned Dabengwa somewhere here don't remember where. With him we have to accept that guys like Mutombodzi & Kaia are the younger batting allrounders. I've always rated Dabengwa. Playing quality cricket overseas has helped him even more. Contrary to his Logan Cup stats, if I were to stick Dabengwa in anywhere it would be in the T20 team ahead of Kaia. He can hit a long ball.

*Of that u19 group - Jongwe, Geyle, Burl, Lake, Diplock, Handirisi, Musoko, Gumbie etc; Lake & Geyle left without playing FC cricekt. Diplock&Mumba were weaker for the u19s than Musoko&Chimhamhiwa. Diplock hasn't been able to make a FC side yet, and Mumba has excelled recently, but those two are better. Jongwe has been brilliant, and Gumbie has also excelled becasue he batted higher than Burl for the u19s and succeeded just as much. But it's clear that Burl was better than Geyle&Lake, so it's no surprise that Burl too would have done better than them if they stayed.

I guess you dont want to win the Afghanistan series ??

Winning an ODI series is too precious and rare for us we must be full strength against the Afghanis otherwise they'll embarrass us like they did last time ......

I'd also like to know why it's a crime for Malcolm to be anywhere near the national side but it's ok for Maruma ?? Waller averages nearly 3 times that of Maruma in ODI cricket ???

Radaba, have you ever played cricket before?

You forget that a number of us on here actually see these guys in action. Unlike you, we have eye witness accounts to give of these boys. You go on stats that tell half a story and in most cases don't even get put on cricinfo or whatever feed you use. Take that into account.

Bravura Radaba is Timycen Maruma...I mean...He must be?

jaybro wrote:I'd also like to know why it's a crime for Malcolm to be anywhere near the national side but it's ok for Maruma ?? Waller averages nearly 3 times that of Maruma in ODI cricket ???

What exactly do you know about Maruma and his career in relation to the national team?

Maruma, started out this career for the national team as a bowler, and did bowl as well as Utsyea, Lamb, Price & Cremer during those dark days of spinner atatck. That's half of his matches for the national team.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/439142.html
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/439143.html

Even if you go on his bowling stats, regardless of the fact that he hasn't bowled much in the last 2-3 years, he is probably Zimbabwe's best spinner in domestic cricket.

The point is, and I've said this before, Maruma has consistently delivered in domestic cricket, Malcolm hasn't. He is Zimbabwe's most prolific batsman in domestic cricket over the last 5 years. He deserves a consistent run as well to prove what he's all about.

Since he came back as a batsman for 8 ODIs, he has been made to bat at 3&4 for five of those, 6&7 in the other three. In his only Test against Bangladesh he was made to open! Try give me Williams, Malcolm & Craig's careers as openers, or at 1st drop in the various formats!

Stop hating on someone who hasn't had a proper chance after earning the right. None of the players in that list or left out including Mutizwa, Chari, Kasuza, Mutombodzi, Gupo, Burl, Kaia, Gumbie, Mawoyo, Mamhiyo etc deserve to be there ahead of Maruma.

Below is how Malcolm Waller has fared lately. The reality is that after coaching from Butcher, Grant, his dad, Whatmore etc plus the amount of experience he's had Malcolm should be doing better than this. Unfortunately he hasn't. What's worse is that his domestic career has been appalling yet he's still selected.

I'd love for you to reduce it to Malcolm vs Maruma, or "you hate Malcolm" but the reality is that he of all batsmen has proven that he does not belong there. This comes back to what I've said several times - "The habit of not dropping non-performing players sets a precedent. All of these players Kasuza, Maruma, Kaia etc, must also get th 70 odd matches Malcolm got too before they are dropped!"