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Donald
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Netherlands have been in good positions twice now against Afghanistan in last 12 overs and they end up being strangled by spin. Rashid is kept back for about 3/4 overs in last 10. Its a good move. Hard to hit out at a premier leg spinner

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Mujeeb wraps it up. What a capitulation.

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A few horrendous decisions gone agains the Dutch. All Afghan umpires and no DRS? Sounds legit....

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secretzimbo wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:29 am
I hope you are right mate. But it's very weird we've given Raza a NOC to play in the BPL, if we have important super league games at the same time?
I forgot Rajput has booted him out of T20 selection. So maybe we will be playing the 5 T20's first, and there's still time for Raza to return before the ODIs.

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Donald wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:17 pm
Netherlands have been in good positions twice now against Afghanistan in last 12 overs and they end up being strangled by spin. Rashid is kept back for about 3/4 overs in last 10. Its a good move. Hard to hit out at a premier leg spinner
Players missed by Netherlands this series are
Stephan myburgh
Max o Dowd
Ben Cooper
Reolof van der Merwe
Logan van Beek
Tim van der gugten
Paul van meekeren
Shane snater
A full strength Netherlands would have surely beaten them atleast once in the series if not twice

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I'm happy that WSL is getting scrapped.

1) There absolutely no point in having a league where there is no control over the opponents you play. Sone teams get all tough ones while some get relatively easier fixtures.

2) Not all ODIs are part of this league, so South Africa's 3-0 win over India, doesn't count towards any WSL points.

3) It's a joke that the host nation, who directly qualify for the WC, are still part of this 'qualification pathway', the results of which have no consequence for them. Only ICC is capable of such genius thinking. 😎

Afghanistan look likely to gain a direct qualification to 2023 WC, I'm saying this looks very realistic now folks, more so because I'm sure not all series' of this WSL will be completed and it will get down to % points. Afghans may well have higher numbers as they've played weaker opponents first up and did not slip up.

I'd rather have normal bilaterals over this WSL crap.

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sam_ahm wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:52 pm
I'm happy that WSL is getting scrapped.

1) There absolutely no point in having a league where there is no control over the opponents you play. Sone teams get all tough ones while some get relatively easier fixtures.

2) Not all ODIs are part of this league, so South Africa's 3-0 win over India, doesn't count towards any WSL points.

3) It's a joke that the host nation, who directly qualify for the WC, are still part of this 'qualification pathway', the results of which have no consequence for them. Only ICC is capable of such genius thinking. 😎

Afghanistan look likely to gain a direct qualification to 2023 WC, I'm saying this looks very realistic now folks, more so because I'm sure not all series' of this WSL will be completed and it will get down to % points. Afghans may well have higher numbers as they've played weaker opponents first up and did not slip up.

I'd rather have normal bilaterals over this WSL crap.
It's a brilliant idea but badly executed. The format, for reasons you mentioned, is pretty bad. But it's a great concept in theory and I'm gutted we are losing it.

It has guaranteed regular fixtures for the likes of Zim, Ireland, Netherlands etc. We've got series with India and Australia upcoming because of it. The Netherlands will play more ODI's against full members in 3 years than they have in their previous 100 years, for example. But in the next cycle, without the super league, they will probably play 0 again. Zim and Ireland will struggle for fixtures too, as usual. Afghanistan probably will struggle for fixtures too as no one will be keen to organise bilaterals with them after the Taliban takeover.

Also, endless 5 or 7 match bilateral series with no real meaning or context aren't that exciting. Fighting for points in a league table is. It adds real significance and context to our upcoming Netherlands series for example. Usually, no one would care about Zim-Ned matches, but it's a great chance to pick up points and ensure we don't finish 13th.

It's a shame the larger nations haven't taken it seriously. And it's a shame the fixture list and format is flawed. But it's an even bigger shame that it is being scrapped altogether imo.

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secretzimbo wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:24 pm
sam_ahm wrote:
Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:52 pm
I'm happy that WSL is getting scrapped.

1) There absolutely no point in having a league where there is no control over the opponents you play. Sone teams get all tough ones while some get relatively easier fixtures.

2) Not all ODIs are part of this league, so South Africa's 3-0 win over India, doesn't count towards any WSL points.

3) It's a joke that the host nation, who directly qualify for the WC, are still part of this 'qualification pathway', the results of which have no consequence for them. Only ICC is capable of such genius thinking. 😎

Afghanistan look likely to gain a direct qualification to 2023 WC, I'm saying this looks very realistic now folks, more so because I'm sure not all series' of this WSL will be completed and it will get down to % points. Afghans may well have higher numbers as they've played weaker opponents first up and did not slip up.

I'd rather have normal bilaterals over this WSL crap.
It's a brilliant idea but badly executed. The format, for reasons you mentioned, is pretty bad. But it's a great concept in theory and I'm gutted we are losing it.

It has guaranteed regular fixtures for the likes of Zim, Ireland, Netherlands etc. We've got series with India and Australia upcoming because of it. The Netherlands will play more ODI's against full members in 3 years than they have in their previous 100 years, for example. But in the next cycle, without the super league, they will probably play 0 again. Zim and Ireland will struggle for fixtures too, as usual. Afghanistan probably will struggle for fixtures too as no one will be keen to organise bilaterals with them after the Taliban takeover.

Also, endless 5 or 7 match bilateral series with no real meaning or context aren't that exciting. Fighting for points in a league table is. It adds real significance and context to our upcoming Netherlands series for example. Usually, no one would care about Zim-Ned matches, but it's a great chance to pick up points and ensure we don't finish 13th.

It's a shame the larger nations haven't taken it seriously. And it's a shame the fixture list and format is flawed. But it's an even bigger shame that it is being scrapped altogether imo.
Absolutely SZ, great concept without a doubt but very poorly executed, and as you rightly said the bigger teams haven't taken it seriously at all.

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The problem for Afghanistan is that after us I think they got Pakistan, Australia, Bangladesh, India and Sri Lanka. They just started with the easy fixtures. I think you need more than 100 points to qualify so if they don't whitewash us it will be tough.

This is why also sending a weak team to face us is not an option for them

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A player ( not going to name) who was on that recently-concluded SL tour told me that the Afghanistan series is not happening so the rumours that are doing the rounds could be put to rest for the time being.

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