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Sounds reassuring when he talks and lays out his approach: https://www.dailynews.co.zw/articles/20 ... forming-zc

“We have been very open with our approach when we came on board in 2015 in that we said we wanted as many people as possible who are willing to give a hand to the game be they players or administrators both current and former because our belief is that everyone has something to add to the process,” he said.

Also interesting:

Mukuhlani is also hopeful that the recent relaxation of change of citizenship rules by the ICC can also help Zimbabwe’s quest to lure back as many players as possible.

The current rule states that a player can wait three years having played for another country if they are willing to return to their country of origin and in those three years the player in question should be resident in the said country he or she wants to represent.

Honestly don't see any of those guys who have played for England NZ etc willing to come and sit in Zim for 3 years before they play for us. Long shot if you ask me. The solution is to catch someone like Byrom before they play for another country.

They have made a lot of progress. That is undeniable. Don't know what else they could do. I think maybe they need to work on the strength of our domestic structure. I see they are trying to have a proper schedule this season. I think once we have a set domestic season maybe they should invite Namibia to join it to increase the quality of the games.

TapsC wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:34 am

Honestly don't see any of those guys who have played for England NZ etc willing to come and sit in Zim for 3 years before they play for us. Long shot if you ask me. The solution is to catch someone like Byrom before they play for another country.

They have made a lot of progress. That is undeniable. Don't know what else they could do. I think maybe they need to work on the strength of our domestic structure. I see they are trying to have a proper schedule this season. I think once we have a set domestic season maybe they should invite Namibia to join it to increase the quality of the games.

A lot of none-thinking going on, and at least it's becoming clear - Pakistani,Mukuhlani, Streak and Taibu are operating at the same level. Once again I did say no matter how much you try and ignore logic, it will keep coming back. Byrom was a more practical target than the likes of Taylor and Jarvis. No matter how much that point is rejected, it's in such articles or colums that it will constantly be proven.

Namibia are a part of SA's 3-day provincial league, and if they see Zimbabwe being thumped by the same boys in the league they play in already, then there's no way Namibia will move from there to ZIM.

Yes the domestic structure's strnegth shoul dbe increased, and again another major contradcition - how does one laud the Risign Stars being added as a fifth team when e.g. Aliseni, LTGM and Mutombodzi are on the bench for Eagles on that match weekend.

Nothing is being thought about properly in Zimbabwe cricket. What is also becoming increasingly clear is that some fans who used to blame Chingoka, Bvuta, Makoni and Mukondiwa for poor administration and financial mismanagement, would have similarly bankrupted ZC and sidelined domestic cricket for things like AFG T20, Rising Stars pub games and matches against NED B!!!

TapsC wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:34 am

Honestly don't see any of those guys who have played for England NZ etc willing to come and sit in Zim for 3 years before they play for us. Long shot if you ask me. The solution is to catch someone like Byrom before they play for another country.

True, we should intelligently target the Eddie Byroms and the Tanaka Chivangas (or the Brandon Gilmours), not the Gary Ballances and the Tom Currans. But we now have the platform to chase the former set.

When we do chase them, it should also be made clear from the outset that they are not getting into the national team contention right away in most of those cases. The players approached might develop a complex that they are coming to replace the incumbents at the national setup. The diaspora coming back is a process towards strengthening the domestic setup, which in turn makes the domestic setup strong and initiates a fiercer competition for places higher up in the hierarchy.

But this is the difficult part to handle for Mukhulani and co. That is, to keep the expectations realistic for the folks coming back. And that is where they might also hit a roadblock, because there is not much financial security at the lower levels, and not much discipline in running the show there too. So, the overall economy of the country comes into picture for those cases.

CrimsonAvenger wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:40 am

When we do chase them, it should also be made clear from the outset that they are not getting into the national team contention right away in most of those cases. The players approached might develop a complex that they are coming to replace the incumbents at the national setup. The diaspora coming back is a process towards strengthening the domestic setup, which in turn makes the domestic setup strong and initiates a fiercer competition for places higher up in the hierarchy.

So "hypothetically", Crimson can put Malcolm Lake in the Test/ODI XI in ZCF, and jaybro will fight bitterly if you question that yet Mukhuhlani must convince them to play for Southern Rocks first and sleep on the floor next to the last Rhodesian

I never thought you'd turn on Taibu!
Vusi better watch out because it seems anyone can be caught in hhm's crossfire now!

PariH, no one is denying that Byrom would be a huge win, but the fact is Taylor is the better bat right now and we need guys like that for WC2019 qualification.

What's more and even more importantly was Taylor I was a lower hanging fruit and more likely to come back.

This in turn envigorates our fans and has laid the platform for the confidence for someone like Jarvis, who was a bit harder to attain, to follow suit.

This now will in turn snowball momentum for guys like welch and Byrom

The acquisition of mire set up getting BT and biggest up KJ, and so on I hope.

Lake and Murray are the other two low having fruits to get I think

There will be some sweet spot I'd imagine when the kids get English citizenship and before they play for England or whatever....

That's when you can get them because they can now go and live in England should Zimbabwe
take another turn into banana republic status. It's like an insurance policy for them.

ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:36 am

PariH, no one is denying that Byrom would be a huge win, but the fact is Taylor is the better bat right now and we need guys like that for WC2019 qualification.

So much money for bait?

Anyway forget that. Seriously, what happens if Zimbabwe don't qualify.

I know Streak will definitely be fired. Then what?

ZC must be careful who they appoint as the next coach for fear of upsetting Taylor and Jarvis, plus putting off Byrom? Never ending cycle of pandering to a wish (qualification and improvement), nending to players who still don't deliver and probably won't when they come in?

brmtaylor.com admin wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:30 am

I never thought you'd turn on Taibu!
Vusi better watch out because it seems anyone can be caught in hhm's crossfire now!

I've never been hung up on personalities.

Geoff Toyana was supposed to be the next SA coach. Fair enough Ottis Gibson got the gig.

But for Toyana to agree to deputise Graeme Smith for one of the Global T20 franchises made me lose respect for him. Smith was a great captain, but he has no coaching experience. It's normal to want a marquee star to lead like some IPL sides used to do e.g. with Ponting. But taking a job out of greed for money was a poor move. Lack of self-respect.

To an extent I can tolerate Ntini agreeing to be an ambassador. But a highly rated Pro coach doing this wasn't right.

I've never shied away from saying Vusi and Hami are stupid and weak for not refusing to open. they have seniority and experience. They could have simply refused the national contract, gone back to domestic and waited their turn in the middle order. With time they would have got their chance in their preferred positions because clearly all these players have failed in them. A Dutch Ryan ten Doeschate averaged extremely high against the very same associates they flop against today. Vusi averaged as high as him against those same Associates in FC batting at number 4. No reason why he can't repeat it.