System failure behind fast bowling woes

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Re: System failure behind fast bowling woes

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pariah wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:55 pm
This is precisely one of the reasons why I told you the RS side idea(plus their UK trip) was an absolute waste.
:D Rising Stars is a waste because Panyangara chose not to continue in the Zimbabwean FC system this year?
pariah wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:55 pm
It's because they dislike them for their own personal reasons. Nothing to do with me. It's crazy to even intimate that an adult's reasoning is shaped by my convictions.
I wonder how you came to the conclusion in bold :). Soon, you'll see how little those two get discussed in your absence and you'll know unfortunately how much you incited people's minds in extreme directions (which appears to be what you have been looking to achieve mostly anyway)

If you have a problem that they get discussed very less, then that is because we don't do this:
CrimsonAvenger wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:23 pm
to deify them to be Malcolm Marshall and Don Bradman

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Re: System failure behind fast bowling woes

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The following is Panyangara's career List A & first class bowling performances(courtesy of cricketarchive) & definitely hasn't played for ALL Zimbabwe provinces/franchises/first class domestic teams.


List A Bowling For Each Team by Tinashe Panyangara
Team Balls Mdns Runs Wkts BB Ave 4wI 5wI SRate Econ
Manicaland 198 0 157 3 1-20 52.33 0 0 66.00 4.75
Mid West Rhinos 216 6 151 3 1-26 50.33 0 0 72.00 4.19
Midlands Rhinos 150 2 123 2 2-48 61.50 0 0 75.00 4.92
Mountaineers 228 3 199 7 2-30 28.42 0 0 32.57 5.23
Southern Rocks 773 16 516 18 4-26 28.66 2 0 42.94 4.00
Zimbabwe 3242 41 3025 65 3-28 46.53 0 0 49.87 5.59
Zimbabwe A 516 7 375 14 3-41 26.78 0 0 36.85 4.36
Zimbabweans 48 2 31 0 3.87


First-class Bowling For Each Team by Tinashe Panyangara
Team Balls Mdns Runs Wkts BB Ave 5wI 10wM
Manicaland 234 10 112 3 2-17 37.33 0 0
Midlands Rhinos 668 40 241 9 2-45 26.77 0 0
Mountaineers 866 31 424 9 2-29 47.11 0 0
Southern Rocks 2432 113 986 43 4-4 22.93 0 0
Zimbabwe 1889 87 813 31 5-59 26.22 1 0
Zimbabwe A 1507 60 761 28 4-87 27.17 0 0
Zimbabwe Select XI 132 4 69 5 5-60 13.80 1 0
Zimbabweans 150 2 99 1 1-36 99.00 0 0

Nope, no Tuskers or Eagles in that lot!
And stop with all this talk of Panyangara. It's obvious he's turning skippy & will be part of Australia's pace attack for the next home ashes series in 4 years. Leave our bloke alone!

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One thing that Hhm has done. He has shaped the language. A word that means something in English now means something different in ZCFglish.

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I think what hhm has done has made the forum hate players like Vusi and Panyangara. Poor guys. They just want to play.

Let’s be honest, when Vusi (as per usual) fails, People are quick to point and go ‘ahh ahh told you so’ and now he’s death ridden every innings.

He’s now gone from a player people generally liked but were frustrated with to someone who is wanted to fail.
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Yes, the subplot of whichever barrow Hhm is pushing skews the regular support/enmity of following the cricketers.

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Jemisi wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:45 am
One thing that Hhm has done. He has shaped the language. A word that means something in English now means something different in ZCFglish.

FACT
:)

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ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:55 am
I think what hhm has done has made the forum hate players like Vusi and Panyangara. Poor guys. They just want to play.

Let’s be honest, when Vusi (as per usual) fails, People are quick to point and go ‘ahh ahh told you so’ and now he’s death ridden every innings.

He’s now gone from a player people generally liked but were frustrated with to someone who is wanted to fail.
Your reasoning is akin to saying I've made you love Craig, Sean and Malcolm far more than you already did.

Nothing you say will make me hate Utseya or speak ill of him unfairly without statistical basis.

It's downright childish for a grown man to say he goes out to post with an hhm subconscious when he sees anything about Vusi or Panyangara. Senseless.

You just genuinely hated him doing well in that T20 competition and reading about Panyangara doing extremely well in AUS with those coaches saying absolutely nothing like the twisted rumours that were spread here. Your own filter would have told you it's either we have higher or lower standards in AUS or we don't. To say that mental malfunction is because of me is disingenuous.

How am I responsible for people thinking it was no big deal when Jongwe was reportedly lost to ZIM cricket? How am I responsible for people consistently bemoaning the "loss" of only certain u19s and wanting them to come back to FC picks yet they have vastly weaker stats than plenty who remained but are not in the setup?(yes I'm glad i shaped that one) If Burl was opening and flopping in Tests like Mire you would be saying give him more time. If Mushangwe had Cremer's bowling stats in Tests you would rightly call him junk.

Dig deeper and you'll realise that this has absolutely nothing to do with me and everything to do with you. Only thing you can remotely credit me with is being an effective mirror.

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He supports you and yet you use one of your remaining posts to have a go at the Dogg.

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Jemisi wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:50 am
He supports you and yet you use one of your remaining posts to have a go at the Dogg.
What makes you deduce that its for him alone? That's for everyone who reasons like that and they have said the same as him above.

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Re: System failure behind fast bowling woes

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Hay PAriah, u seem to like Wasakadza a lot more than Chisoro? Why is that? I’d be curious as I think Chisoro is more effective, and race isn’t a possibility so I’d be interested to hear your reasoning here.

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